I’m a 3rd year at one of the Big 4 (2020 grad) and have been debating whether it would be wise to lateral to Littler. I want to ultimately be at a v100 law firm with market salary at some point; however, I haven’t had much success with lateraling directly from Big 4 to v100 (Paul Hastings, Morgan Lewis, etc.). Any thoughts on sticking it out until an opportunity arises or lateral to Littler in the interim.

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It is tough to say, but I could see a v100 firm looking down on moving from a peer firm to Littler and then looking to move again. ML/PH would almost certainly consider how many moves you have made already. That is just my impression from interactions with their attorneys, not any specific inside knowledge.

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I would say lateral to Litter and make the jump to a firm sooner rather than later. My husband started out at EY as a tax consultant after law school and had a hard time lateraling out to Big Law. After a year at EY he joined a small firm in the Bay Area and was eventually able to lateral to a V100 but at a lower class year since they don’t count his year with EY as firm experience.

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Thank you, this gives me hope!

For what it’s worth, I’ve not heard good things about Littler (I’m an L&E attorney). I realize this is being contemplated as an interim step but I don’t believe they pay market & have heard that associate development is lacking.

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I was speaking with someone who is now in house and had worked there as an associate and basically said it was terrible. The general impression I got is that they don’t devote much time or effort, if any, into furthering their associate’s development and don’t particularly care about it. This person’s experience seemed to be an “every man for himself” type of environment with little help, oversight, or attention to what the they needed to further their career, growth, skill set, etc. I was also contacted about a role there last year and I believe the salary was around $200k. I don’t know what “class year” they were looking for but I’m in my 10th year of practice so it seems like they were looking for someone a bit more senior. I haven’t been exclusively L&E for all 10 years, but about 7.

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No. Littler = JL = Ogletree = FP. Do class/ collective actions (FLSA and CA are good), and get as much counseling work as you can do (although it’s veryyyyy hard to come by. Lots of gate keeping/ hoarding). If you were at Lewis Brisbois, an interim move to littler may have been worth it but if you’re already in the big 4, don’t do it. Also littler is unnecessarily aggressive. It’s annoying

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I’m at one of the big firms referenced in your post OP. It seems like you are already at one of the other big 4 firms? If so, I wouldn’t lateral your littler with the goal of getting to a biglaw firm. My own view of Littler and those of the employment attorneys in my office is pretty unimpressed and I think higher of other big 4 firms. In any event, none are a big difference between each other. If you want to lateral for other reasons, then littler is fine, but I don’t think it would make any type of material difference in your application to a big law firm and if anything, it might be a net negative (low opinion of the Littler litigation style/work product combined with a higher respect level for people that stay at one firm for an extended period).

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Unnecessary motions and billable work that drive up fees without substantively furthering their client’s interests.

Now that obviously is not universally true, but I know it’s the impression of the firm at my firm and among a fair number of our clients that used to work with Littler.

Littler does do very well with fixed fee arrangements for position statements and small single plaintiff cases and there is a value in that, but I suspect that is not the type of work one laterals to try and do more of.

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