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I personally think it's outdated. I'm sure other people would make a case for college staying mandatory, but I personally know that college was not a good deal for me. Pretty much everything I know has been self study and, to be honest, YouTube videos and OTJ training. Sure, college was fun. But did I realistically get $60,000 worth of education out of it? Absolutely not. I will never encourage my kids to go to college unless they really want to.
Same. I’m going to promote trade school more than anything else
I think it depends on the job. A degree for a customer service job? No. A degree for a manager? Yes. A degree for a business analyst? Yes. I think the bar to entry could be and should be lowered for some lower skilled work.
I disagree with this. I don’t care if my manager has a degree…as they probably got it 20-30 years ago and it’s meaningless. Same for a business analyst…a degree will only get you so far. I can say with 100% seriousness that I didn’t get anything from college except for a handful of lifelong friends. It has not opened a single door for me
I’ve never required a degree when I’ve hired. I always list “or equivalent work experience”. I don’t have a degree myself.
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It depends on the role, but in public accounting degrees are absolutely required due to licensing regulations. If you are concerned about leaving out applicants that may not have the money for college, why not just consider those that went to community college? Many graduates showed the determination to get a degree even without the economic means to do so - these will be the people with the right work mindset to build a career, as they often worked and went to school at the same time. Education is great, but attitude and drive also go a long way.
I hired some people with only a high school diploma and could tell the difference in their work quality. Some people can get by with a high school diploma, but not these candidates. This was for an accounts payable type job. Nothing too complicated, but their confidence level was very low, and they struggled with Excel and Word.
Where did you people go to college? I got my masters and bachelor’s at the same time for under $10k.
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$11k-$22k per year if you’re not including summer semesters…. Now multiply that by 4 years (at minimum). You’re looking at $44k-$88k. Way more than $10k… although maybe I misunderstood your original comment. I thought you meant $10k total to get both a bachelors and masters degree.
Not for energy level
Degrees matter in my industry (financial services). So many people have them and there are so many applicants it doesn’t make sense to consider someone without a degree…
I know Progressive is starting to look at Technical Boot Camp Certifications in lieu of a 4yr degree. I love that as an alternative route.
ABSOLUTELY
I got mine later in life to justify my salary (that I got with self learning and on the job knowledge) but these days I don’t think it should be for entry level. If you determine it’s just something you want to do, go for it.
It may be outdated but unfortunately it’s all about supply and the job market. Employers need a way to filter out applicants. If there’s too many, requiring a bachelor’s degree is just a filter to reduce the number.
For example in some third world countries like the Philippines, it’s common for fast food places to require a bachelor’s degree because there’s an oversupply of jobless folks with a bachelor’s.
Depends on the job.
In a lab no it's not outdated.
In specialized fields, not outdated.
Almost everything else, yeah it is.
How relevant is a degree from 30 years ago anyways? Most of my friends received a degree in one thing but are doing something unrelated. I would think experience is better