I’ve never been more done than right now. I need to get out but feel like I can’t until I get my cpa. I’ve work till 9 almost every night and 1am during busy seasons and my mental/physically health is deteriorating. And Its crazy that working that much is normalized. Also the pay is terrible. If you do an hourly rate It’s $12/hr... Should I suck it up and just kms to get that senior experience and then leave? I worried if I leave now my big 4 experience won’t be valued

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I left Big Four to a smaller PA firm before getting Senior promo. For the lateral move, my salary went up 12% and bonuses are double the PwC standard (yes they’re paying bonuses during COVID). Plus they pay OT with no cap. Don’t drink the Big Four Kool Aid and think that if you leave before X years you’re doomed. It’s all nonsense designed to keep people fearful & stay in place

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Yes it is, SM1 – I found a hidden gem. The founding partner is a super cool guy and he’s ex Arthur Andersen. Multiple Managers & higher are from Big Four too. This firm & PwC actually share a client

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I’m in the same boat. don’t have a cpa yet, but honestly don’t think I wanna keep pursuing accounting. just because everyone tells you you won’t get far without enough experience at big4, doesn’t mean it’s true. sounds like you wanna find a new job, that’s what I’m doing

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I was on the same boat. And every year it never got better. It become harder and harder to complete CPA. I ended up passing 2 and eventually they expired. So I feel I need to leave in order to get the CPA.

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It’s not normalized. You’re working in public accounting at one the most competitive firms in the world. Just switch to a smaller firm, that’s a totally okay and probably healthy choice!

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Have you talked to your PML?

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