Struggling with billing, it takes me like 5 hours to do 3 billable hours worth of work and then I’m exhausted afterwards, what am I doing wrong?

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It’s called burning out. Do you like your work?

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A1, literally me. I've repeatedly said the worst thing they could do is fire me and I just go do something more enjoyable. Don't dislike the work but hate the lifestyle (or more accurately, lack thereof).

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You're selling yourself short. Bill everything.

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Bill everything and use timers religiously (you’re likely losing more time than you realize). If you’re having trouble focusing on a particular task, try something like the Pomodoro Technique to break up the time.

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Yep use timers. Mine shuts off only for lunch.

Usually am still thinking about whatever I’m working on so it stays on if that’s the case

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To the post below- it is quiet, so I’ll bite!
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