What are some alternative jobs for JDs/lawyers? Editorial stuff? We know how to write. Idk (other than teaching and politics)

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You can be a major network anchor like Meghan Kelly or a Peloton instructor like Robyn... kidding, but the possibilities are endless and not limited to lawyer functions!

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The longer I practice the more I understand why some retirees are so happy being a grocery cart parking lot grabber . I can’t lie That job looks quite appealing

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Legal marketing/BD. We have 5 JDs in our BD team of 20 people.

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Mid-sized and large law firms have business development and marketing teams that manage PR, the website, social media, pitches and RFPs, webinars, firm hosted events, firm sponsorships/speaking engagements, targeting efforts, competitive intelligence, and help you work on your business development plans, among many other things. My firm of 400 attorneys has about 20 people on the marketing and BD side. Our job is to give attorneys back the billable hour so they can work on billable work, and we can help them get in front of new leads or keep current clients happy.

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In seriousness, in house government relations (if that counts as not politics). Product manager if you can get a foot in the door. Blogging. Launch a company and don’t be overwhelmed by the paperwork. Law-adjacent public interest. Coding if you can stomach it.

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There were a number of threads on this in the other law bowls—it may be worth checking out!

I think the bitter pill few people want to swallow is that to pivot away from the law, you have to actually get enough experience in the law to be able to leverage it as a pivot. So many people are like 1-2 years out of law school and want to pivot. I get that, but you’re basically saying at that point that you can add value by virtue of going to law school, which we all know is without any merit.

However, if you manage to learn, say, M&A well enough to lead a deal, you now have expertise in M&A, which means you can do business development for an acquirer. Get good at acquihires (the easiest kind of M&A tbh) and you’ll probably be able to make more money at FAANG running talent acquisition than you would at a firm outside of partnership.

Get good enough at cap markets and you can aim for compliance functions at public companies. Get good enough at tax and you can join a Big 4 and pivot. Get good enough at benefits and pivot to an HR function. I am a transactional guy but I’d bet there are analogies to litigation.

The point is you have to get good at something first, and then you have something concrete that you can stand on so you can make the actual pivot.

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