AWS vs Cloudflare BDR roles

AWS lowballed but I negotiated to match Cloudflare. Cloudflare offers more equity but AWS has a higher base.

I love Cloudflare. The people are great but it’s an engineering culture and the sales team isn’t as well shaped up and I can’t go for a promotion until at least 18 months of tenure. I am an investor in the company and think of them super highly. I’ve already got half a years SDR experience and AWS promotes quicker.

AWS has prestige but is it worth it?

like
Posting as :
works at
You are currently posting as works at

What do they both pay? Just curious.

like

Sounds like you like Cloudflare. AWS is very tough to move up from SDR. My suggestion would be to do the time at Cloudflare (18 months isn’t very long), get promoted, then go to AWS if that’s what you still want.

like

Cloud flare. Based on what you just said. People pay for happiness and what you're gaining with how you feel about AWS doesn't seem like it's worth as much to you as cloud flare

like

Although no denying the resume builder that Big 3 cloud is. I didn’t go into Big 4 consulting to stay forever and climb to partner, I did it for the exits opps and resume builder. Since OP is early into career I’d say go with AWS for the top training and branding and then move to Cloudflare or whatever after. Who stays at one company for the rest of their career right. Both are good big companies though and OP is in a great position regardless for start of their sales career. OP says it’s easier to rise quickly at AWS, and already has a year of SDR experience so I would go make AE at AWS fast, stay for a full sales cycle or a few and kill it, then hop to Cloudflare or other companies with potentially more equity.

like

Go with AWS if you can, will have way more opportunities in the future if you can do well

like

Questions for my friends in aws sales, looking to gain more understanding in associate account executive role as ill be interviewing.

I gather from this that what you're saying is the benefits are a tough swallow.

How was/is the team dynamic between colleagues?

Did you have to prepare mock deck presentations for the interview?

What keeps you happy at AWS?

like

No mock deck presentations for the interview. Team dynamics are great in the DG organization between DGs and direct managers. DG leadership is awful though. Your interview will mainly be based off of quantitative and qualitative stories associated with the LPs.

like

Personally I’d do AWS for the prestige, it’s Big3 cloud which is a no brainer to me especially for early career. Go through the training, get promoted to AE, and you’ll have tons of opportunities for exits including Cloudflare. Grind it out at AWS and it’ll set you up the rest of your career and you can worry about benefits (or equity offers) then.

like

Related Posts

Recruiters. You tell me a range, I tell you it’s low.

Do you think, “he’s trying to game the system?” Or, “if his agency is paying that much he must be doing something right?”

like

Level 10.1 how much hike and vpay?

like

Can someone work at Bizops position at tech company share about your recruiting journey and how you prepared yourself to get the role? Looking to switch in the near future and would appreciate some advice🥰

like

Hi everyone.
Just reached final on-site round for a Senior Manager position in the logistics department. Role is for Amazon UK. Recruiter is asking me now for my expected compensation (base salary + total comp) via email. Any idea what to aim for?

I don’t know the level but was aiming £80k base, +15% bonus. If I don’t fall under their budget, would I automatically be removed from candidates?
Any tips are appreciated!

like

Does anyone know what base comp/bonus look like for Manager and AP levels in IQVIA’s strategy consulting practice in US?

like

Please someone help me! This is urgent
I have 2 offers

1. Real Estate analyst.
Currently outsourced but will be on clients payroll in future
US Real Estate Firm
Underwriting deals for industrial (warehouse)

2. Relationship Manager
in Top 4 Indian Bank
Financial sponsor group - handling relations with PE/VC firms.

Compensation is same.

What to decide

like

What do you guys think the salary range should be for a 5th year lit associate at a boutique shop in NYC? Sophisticated clients, mostly international work, well known in their practice areas. Obviously it’s not going to be market, but still curious as to thoughts on rough ballpark. High 1s, low 2s? +/- ??

likesmart

Hey all, 4 YoE strategy consultant looking for some exit options. Looking to jump ship from consulting into something in the life sciences field, but not particularly interested in working for big pharma. Does anyone have any suggestions?

like

What should be the salary in Amsterdam, Netherlands. Considering the current inflation and high cost of living in Amsterdam as compared to metro citys in india
Yoe: 6-7yr
Tech stack - Java backend/Full stack developer
Current ctc in india : 27lpa

I been trying to get into the cloud administrator side of tech for about a year. I have two Azure certifications (Azure fundamental and Azure Administrator) but I haven’t had any luck with entry level positions. Every position is requiring a year or more of experience. Does anyone have any advice on what I can do to increase my chances for a position?

Do I even want to become VP? MD? Not sure if I want to become a slave to banking.

like

hi Sharks

Can anyone help me what will by my inhand salary for CTC 31.5 Lakh((No variable) fixed ctc and i have home loan and life insurance of more then 1.5 Lakh
Employwr contribution to PF is 9450 monthly and i think same goes from my contribution as well

like

How is the Deep Learning specialization on Coursera?

I am currently working as a PayPal AWF/CW in contractor's payroll for the past 3 months. I heard many got converted from AWF to FTE. So what is the process for FTE conversion? Should I clear some Interviews? Also how much would the salary increment be? On par with regular hiring? Any minimum time limit of being in AWF before FTE conversion?

like

What is the culture like, type of work and reputation of Capco in the Data & Analytics space?

I have some good ex colleagues who moved over there and also looked up on LinkedIn and see lots of seemingly smart and accomplished people in their D&A team in the UK.

I'll ask my ex colleagues too, but wanted to see if people here have any opinion or information on this too.

TIA

like

Got an offer for Sr. Financial Analyst for 85k & 10% annual bonus. What's a good counteroffer? I told the recruiter 95k-110k when I first interviewed. This position is 100% remote, headquartered in VA. I live in NYC. Have roughly 2 YOE.

Thanks.

like
like

Is it worth making the time/money investment to make the switch from big 4 FDD to MBB. This would require getting into and paying for a top MBA program and my net worth would be way negative after that. Are the MBB financial returns worth it? Im 26 years old for reference

like

Anyone here know anything about reference point? Culture, pay, etc?

More Posts

I’m debating to join Locke Lord Dallas in transactional. I’m looking to stay at the firm long term and would appreciate any information y’all have. Please be as candid as possible.

like

Hey guys! What is the standard CTC for a non-qualified in Big 4 currently with 5 years of experience?

like

Hello Microsoft People,

are the hiring actually frozen for now, I was actually planning to apply for a few roles currently available.


Happy weekend everyone

Are there any industries where in-house hours are generally worse/better?

like

Is myGEMMA legit to buy watches 👀??

like

I was contacted by a recruiter with a job in the EV market, which is something I've been wanting for a while. Im at a comfortable point in my current position where I can do my job very easily, change would mean starting from zero again. What should I do? Any advise?

like

What's the notice period in NTT global?

like
likehelpful

Hey everyone. I keep coming across comments about the predatory practices of journals but can’t find any details. Could you explain?

like

How long does it typically take to get a verbal offer from ZS Associates (Strategy Insights and Planning) after the final interview?

like

Hi Fishes,

Looking for a job in any European country.

Any leads will be helpful.

I have 9.5 years of experience with 4 years experience as an AWS Cloud Infrastructure Engineer. Experience eith On-premises to Cloud migration. Experience of Linux Administration for almost 7 years.

I am AWS Solutions Architect - Professional certified too.

DM me if any relevant job comes up for this role

like

Subject matter eligibility "doctrines" .... lol amirite?

likefunny

I do prosecution and am looking to lateral. Does anyone have recommendations on firms to consider, or ones to avoid? I’m flexible on location.

like

What do y’all use to draw informal figures? I currently use powerpoint but am curious if there are more efficient ways. What have you found most efficient/convenient?

A frustrated colleague asked for help with a difficult prosecution. I agreed to help. I just reviewed up the case and the examiner is combining NINE references. I think that’s a record for me. What’s your record for most number of references combined?

like

Stealth layoffs at CWT confirmed.

like

Has anyone worked with Wethos? Or, have you, as an independent strategist, worked on more “meaningful” social good projects? I am looking to mix things up, team up, and have an impact.

like

Hello friends,
If anyone have core java & selenium notes means please share it with me.

like

Comcast Hi all, comcast offering 19lpa ctc for 7 yoe , tech stack qa automation. This includes 8% variable bonus pay. Negotiations done and they are not ready for further increase. Is this right pay considering market situation? Should i join because of good wlb ? Cctc 12.5

like

How much is your daily/weekly commute to/from your work place? Just wondering as mine is 2+ hours per day

like

Additional Posts in Sales

I have a little over a year of experience as a Partner Success Manager at a Tech company. My company is looking to do salary negotiations this year. When I started out, my base was 70k plus commission of 10k minimum extra. Curious to know what others are making as a PSM and also looking for other opportunities!

like

I've just accepted a BD role with a SaaS company that sells to DevOps teams. My background is selling to marketing/sales teams, and I heard software engineers have a completely different character than sales or marketing professionals.

What's your advice on how to best engage VPs of Engineering/CTOs during the prospecting stage? I really don't know what to expect from my first conversations.

like

Anyone in dental sales?

like

Seeking base salary and commission structure information.
Title: Inside sales manager
Territory size: Half of the USA
Team size: 5-10 and growing
Industry: Renewables/Solar Power

like

Has anyone went from saas to benefit consulting? How was that transition? Was it worth it? I hear in benefits you get a book with recurring revenue.

like

I recently had an initial interview for a technical recruiter position. The guy on the phone stated that this is not a 9-5 job and long hours are expected. I proceed to ask how much PTO is offered and he said that is not recommend within the first 6 months of working and the harder you work the more PTO you receive. From that conversation, I saw instant red flags. Any thoughts?

like

If anyone is looking to work for Stryker DM me. Can give more info and potential referrals.

like

My company covers in depth results each week, including meetings set/attended, wins, revenue, retention etc. I feel as if evaluating in such depth is detrimental to the psyche, as you never get to “ride the high.” In addition, some weeks are simply slower than others, and it’s not always representative of what the results at the end of the period or quarter will be. Is this not a big deal, and I’m I placing too much importance on it? Or is it beneficial to review results less frequently?

like

Hey friends, I've been in sales for over ten years in retail/ hospitality.

I'm focusing my efforts to make a switch into tech sales and id like to work for AWS.

I completed a tech sales bootcamp and have purchased a couple books on sales methodology, more so enhancing sales + active listening skills.

If anybody would be willing to chat! I'd love more insight on roles Within AWS tech sales.

Care for a quick dm chat?

like

I’ve worked at AT&T as a sales consultant for 6 years and 8 months where we prospect, uncover, and close on leads. I’ve used Salesforce for the past 4 years during my tenure. I’ve done B2B sales where I’ve received awards for it for 2 years consecutively. Loads of troubleshooting, uncovering needs through consultative styled selling, and tech app subscriptions.

I was wondering if I have the necessary skills to transition into a tech sales role. If so, what would be the best role/fit for me?Amazon Salesforce Google @

like

Does anyone know if it's possible to move from tech sales to strategy planning? I am a young professional and mostly have background in sales and account management but I do have an econmics and finance degree which could be helpful to move into more technical roles like strategy and operations.

like

What’s a fair salary increase after a year of inflation?

like

If your employer mandated you need to come in 5 days a week would you consider quitting? My situation is I live in my geographical territory and the office is 45 minutes away. No performance issues at quota consistently.

like

Any insight on Aesthetic Medical Device Sales? Interviewing this week.

like

Should I leave my company? Been here 1.5 years and was told I was getting a management promotion 5-6 months ago.Still no solid traction and they are opening up a req for it 😑no one on the current sales team has ever been promoted (2 years)except our boss who has been promoted 3 times. We hit quote every month/q/year by a lot. I have several offers at double my OTE. Already asked what the timeline is for a new manager and I was told soon and I'm "up for consideration." What would you do here?

like

Hey fellow Sale Bowl Mates. I wanted to give yall a quick update on our numbers.
We have grown by 1,890 members to 7113. This means we are well on our way to the 10K mark.
Thanks!

like

Need some advice.. thoughts on SetSail.

like

End of Year Pressure: Manager tells me : Take Some risks, get the deal and apologize later... We are not going to be able to implement in time at the customer's site, which is going to make my "champion" look bad.. What would you do?

like

Wondering what people think about my situation. I’ve been offered a role with a company. The job description didn’t mention college degree as a requirement. On my CV I have a section listed as “Education” and under it I have “Business Studies” with the university name and the 3 years that I attended the course (2.5 to be exact). It’s a 4 year degree and under this I have my High School equivalent with the years I attended there. The education wasn’t mentioned in the interviews. Continued below.

like

New to Fishbowl?

Download the Fishbowl app to
unlock all discussions on Fishbowl.
That was just a preview…
Sign Up to see all discussions
  • Discover what it’s like to work at companies from real professionals
  • Get candid advice from people in your field in a safe space
  • Chat and network with other professionals in your field
Sign up in seconds to unlock all discussions on Fishbowl.

Already a user?
Login here

Share

Embed this post

Copy and paste embed code on your site

Preview

Download the
Fishbowl app

See what’s happening in your industry
from the palm of your hand.

A phone with Fishbowl app

Scan your QR code to download
Fishbowl app on your mobile

Download app

Sign up for free to view this conversation on Fishbowl

By continuing you agree to Terms of Use and Privacy Policy

Already have an account? Log in

Sign up for free to continue using Fishbowl

By continuing you agree to Terms of Use(New) and Privacy Policy(New)
Messaging rates may apply

Already have an account? Log in

For account settings, visit Fishbowl on Desktop Browser or

General

Legal