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Generally, Of Counsel/Counsel are seasoned attorneys at a partner equivalent in skills/experience. Some counsel are essentially senior associates or working partners that serve in a partner-ish role in their cases. Many of these folks are waiting to make partner as firms use of counsel as a NEP equivalent before equity partnership. It’s super common to bring people in as laterals, especially from government, in a counsel role so they can sort of prove themselves before you make them partner.
A lot of them, especially the more senior ones (you’ll see Senior Counsel sometimes), have special skills that make them uniquely valuable to the partners, like niche expertise or litigation skills. Some are just good lawyers the firm liked but didn’t have a partnership case for or they aren’t interested in partnership. We have a lot of working mothers in counsel roles as it’s more flexible for part time arrangements.
Counsel pay can be a mix between salary or origination credit, and billable requirements vary drastically. People post here several times a week asking about it because it’s generally black box and super variable. Pay typically sits right above the most senior associate level, but part-time and remote counsel positions are really common, too. Some also have guaranteed partner consideration, like say after 2 years or something.
Pros are that it’s a relatively stable thing. It’s not an up and out thing like being an associate, and you don’t have to keep making a business case for yourself like a partner. More flexibility, reduced hour requirements, etc. Cons are that you’re doing a huge chunk of the partnership work but without partnership pay or title. They also aren’t partners so they don’t get to participate in things like firm management, and in the hierarchy you’re below the partners.
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Since counsel are often as good (or better) technically than the partners on the case, they frequently get assigned the annoying and/or difficult things that the partner(s) may not want to do. Depos, for example, may be fun the first time, but a few hundred in they get pretty old.
Agreed with above ⬆️ depends on the firm so ask those questions to figure out if it’s the right fit for your goals
A1 has a good grasp on it and how much it varies across firms (and within a firm if there are multiple types of counsel).
Personally I get a salary higher than associates but on the same general “scale” and order of magnitude (if there are industry wide raises, I generally get a commensurate bump to a senior associate, and occasional but not always annual raises). I get bonuses commensurate with senior associates as well.
I have a decent amount of autonomy and there are areas where I have specific skill sets that make me valuable (which led to my promotion to counsel) but aren’t necessarily the skills that directly lead to partnership. I help with pitches but am not outright responsible for business development the way partners are. I could possibly end up going up for partner in the future but currently am enjoying feeling like I can do my job well as I’ve got actual experience and confidence, without the “up or out” sword hanging over my head like a senior associate. I also spend time training and mentoring associates, which is something I enjoy, while being someone that can be a non-partner ear for their concerns.