What’s the difference between lay off and getting fired? Neither because of misconduct or serious performance issues?

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In Russia we say "promoted to customer"

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In Russia employee fire you

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In Texas we say “done got taked out back and shot”

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DFW isn’t the real Texas - at least the D part isn’t.

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Traditionally “lay off” meant capacity was higher than needed, so we are reducing capacity. While usually companies would reduce their least capable employees in this case, it wasn’t specifically a comment on one’s competence. E.g. if a firm has 100 employees and only needs 10. They’re not saying the 90 they laid off are incompetent, even if they kept the 10 best and therefore laid off the 90 “worst.”

“Fired” typically meant either one failed to meet acceptable performance standards or misconduct.

Lots of people conflate the two because it sounds better to say “lay off” when fired for performance reasons.

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Depending on the size and scale of layoffs even highest performers can be let go if there isn’t an immediate staffing need. Layoff = business decision. Firing = you done messed up.

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In the UK the euphemism is "made redundant."

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Nothing. You spin the story favorably to you during your next interview. And you’re eligible for unemployment all the same.

Does either terminology affect severance package?

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