Getting ready to apply for jobs after graduating law school and passing the bar exam. However, it seems a daunting task to enter the transactional world without any prior experience. I put myself through another year of school to become more marketable- tax LLM- but still no better prospects at this time. Any ideas where I should start?

like
Posting as :
works at
You are currently posting as works at

3 years ago

like

Email the head of every practice group in the office you want to work in and attach your credentials. Ask to speak with them about the firm. Do this 500x over the next few days

like

I know it can be daunting at first, starting your first job out of law school and wondering what the expectations will be regarding your experience. At every place I’ve worked (all in-house positions), the legal department already has templates created and usually a playbook as well. Follow the playbook and be sure to ask questions when you have them - it’s how you learn.

When looking for roles, I suggest creating & saving a search on LinkedIn, using key words like “counsel”, “in-house counsel”, “contracts manager”, etc. You can also save the amount of experience you have, reducing the non-applicable job postings. Also be sure to check “goinhousecounsel.com” for weekly job postings.

Last, check out companies that have known tax & accounting business/services, and check to see if their in-house legal team is hiring. I’m thinking the big 4 (EY, PWC, Deloitte and KPMG), as well as Thomson Reuters, CCH/Wolters Kluwer, BNA, Pearson, etc.

Person is currently hiring some contract managers and they prefer a candidate who has a JD. While it’s not specifically an attorney role, if you have a JD, it’s a great way to learn, as well as move up in the organization.

Good luck!

like

If you have a tax llm, and you still don't have strong job prospects, I'm not sure where things went wrong, but you need to reevaluate. Just thoughts from a tax llm working in corporate M&A.

like

Start with your mindset and be open to whatever comes. One foot in front of the other...

like

I second the emailing people and also start contacting all the recruiters that are in the area you want to work in.

like

Where did you get your tax llm?

Ropes in Boston? They just fired a bunch of H1B tax folks

Related Posts

Working on some law firm applications tonight and it sucks that I know that I am so capable and have a strong work ethic but firms can’t see beyond grades or the fact that I didn’t go to a t14 law school or prestigious undergrad. I’ve worked twice as hard and feel like I’ve barely even gotten half as much. It’s discouraging sometimes especially because I worked so hard with pretty much no guidance (first gen, poc, low-income) to get into college and do well and then get into a t30 law school

like

I am a Business Analyst, is there any other course I can do for upskill my self?

Will Data Science be helpful for my future growth?

like

CFA or CAIA?

Currently a first year staff in Risk Advisory in a Mid-Tier Firm hoping to move to Big 4 for either Risk or Cyber. When would be the most appropriate time to make the change? I heard that Senior Staff in mid-tier would most likely be hired as an “Experienced Hire” in Big 4. So would it be smarter to make the move now as a first year staff since I’ll be considered Experienced Hire anyway?

like

Anyone ever switched to a transaction manager role in a big investment bank/ fin services bank after big law? Grateful for any advice.

like

Public vs private sector clients in Canada:

Which do you prefer and why? How has your experience, learning, WLB, and future marketability varied across both?

like

I’m super happy and excited to exit out of consulting job.
I met all the check marks every appraisal cycle but still I was given the same reason every year. Need book of business or sales experience. Finally, I’m out of that cycle. I’m joining one of the FAANG!

Cheers

likeuplifting

Will working in this role with these responsibilities as a “Growth and Content Strategy Senior Analyst” help me get into data analysts roles?

Post Photo
like

I’m about to give my notice at a firm I’ve been at for the majority of my legal career. They’ve recently offered me non-equity partnership (which I’ve accepted), w equity partnership on the horizon. However, I’ve been annoyed with their way of running the business and getting between me and my earnings far too long; and I received a lucrative offer to go in-house. I’m not looking forward to their reaction and feel bad about them having to take over my docket when everyone’s very busy. Any tips?

like

Is there a market for lawyers to add expertise In crisis management or reputation management? My goal is to counsel clients on how to respond to media inquiries without saying or posting something detrimental to a potential litigation while still maintaining communication with their client base. If so, how to break into that industry? Courses? Books? Certifications?

like

Any of you successfully transitioned from consulting to AWS? If so, would you share your experience?

likehelpful

What is the minimum experience required for associate salesforce consultant?

like

One of the reasons I want to transition from industry to consulting (tier 1) is that I get frustrated when I have to collaborate with mediocre people. My assumption is that Tier 1 consulting firms hire really sharp people and if I can get in, I’ll be collaborating with folks on top of their game (not expecting much from clients). I’m aware there are personal aspects I need to work on like my mindset, patience etc etc, but I just get so frustrated with blatant stupidity.

likefunny

Worthwhile getting the AWS cloud practitioner cert? (Will there be a return financially in ease of finding job or higher salary)?

like

Hello everyone ,
I’m currently working in insurance customer service at an agency. I work in the mortgage department assisting w mortgage changes , payments etc. I’ve been thinking about becoming a claims adjuster most likely for property damage . Is it worth it ??? I hear a lot of talk about how claims adjusting is a lot of work and very demanding but I think my current position has prepared me for the challenge. What are some good companies I maybe should apply for after getting my license?

like

I am in the middle of interviewing. What does a systems engineer do? I come from a software background so I’d be working in that realm of it and happened to come across this position and was considering applying.

like
like

Poll for folks who went in-house from Big Law:
1. When did you leave Big Law?
2. Where did you go? (Big Tech, Biotech, Startup,or company name if you feel comfortable)
3. What was your base salary?
4. Did you get equity at the new company and how much?
5. Advice for juniors?
Thank you so much!
Background: I was talking to a fellow Big Law junior associate (we’re 2nd years) about career goals and progression, we both want to go in-house but realized we don’t know alot about compensation

like

Partners,

My firm is immature in guiding development planning. I have energy to accelerate to the next level of responsibility.

What evidence distinguishes an analyst as ready for the next level?

like

Should I quit or go with True?

Post Photo
like

More Posts

Salaries in Chicago with about 7 years of experience? Just curious

like

Hi Fishes, I've an offer letter for Accenture Strategy (M&A) for Senior Manager, India and my joining is in 3 days. Package is very good, but no immediate relocation opportunities. May happen in future.

Now at the very last moment, I've got an M&A leader role from Wipro. Reporting to a board member. This is a global role and will be based in US. L1 visa to be initiated.

Any suggestions on which is a better offer? And, how best I can negotiate here to get myself a better deal. Gracias!

likesmart

How do you answer the question about yourself in i-944 where you can indicate "self" and it asks you if you live with said individual "self", and if this individual is filing for an immigration benefit with you or has in the past (again it's weird because you're talking about yourself.. ).

Recommendation: The climb
My take: A hilarious movie if you have the patience, is a little quirky but I thought it was a really fun feel good movie.

Recruiters, my position as senior in-house counsel at a privately held electronics manufacturing company was eliminated recently due to COVID. Looking for opportunities in the Mpls/Chicago areas. Open to networking or discussing any open opportunities. Experience includes development and purchasing contracts, distribution agreements, patents, trademarks, licensing, data privacy for an international organization with a legal department of one.

like

Can anyone tell usual range of CTC for
1. Data Scientist at
Chubb
2. Sr. Analyst Collection and Recoveries at Barclays
3. Consultant, Collection Analytics at EY
🙏🙏

like

Hows the appraisal number in coforge for this year ?? Nd also how much variable did you guys received ??

What is meant by a "Lateral Hire" in Infosys?

Should I be happy because I still have a job or should I be mad and sad because I didn't get a rise? I'm underpaid and got a 9k raise through 4 years of work

like

How much should I expect to pay to a contractor for building a fully clickable prototype in figma? The design is multi platform and contains roughly 12 screens.

like

Hi all,
I need your favour here.
Do anyone has job referral for Business Analyst profile?

About me: 3.4yrs of workex-
Worked as a Sales Manager and across sales-Ops. 75% Team management+ 25% Data analysis and interpretation
Want to shift towards more data driven role.
I know advance Excel and SQL fundamentals.
Last drawn Ctc: 14lpa fixed

Any leads/suggestions would be helpful.

Thankyou :-)

like

I make poor decisions

like

Looking to relocate to Boston (fiance grew up there and wants to settle down around family). Sadly I dont have much of a network up there. Does anyone know of current searches?

My final round with Deloitte for UK Tech Consulting Manager position soon. Strangely it’s not a PMD round as it usually is for other Big4/tech consulting firms.
1. Can anyone tell me if they’ve been through the whole process without speaking to PMD? (First round Sr Manager, second Case Interview by a manager and third again by a manager) 2. What is a typical salary to expect? I was asked in screening but kept it vague (e.g can discuss later bla bla). I was hoping 75-80 (ridiculous?)

like

Republicans annoy me because Biden is fumbling the bag right now and wrecking everything and republicans decide that RIGHT NOW is the time to die on the hill of a social issue. We have a litany of economic and energy and strategic issues and they decide to just randomly do this for no reason

like

Can someone please help me in getting project description related to LWC (Salesforce) for 2-2.5 yr experience, so that I can take reference and add in my CV?

like

I think non-inclusive teams aren't revenue-efficient, but also aren't morally bad. Most just want to live in their bubble and not have their lives disrupted. If people want coworkers to talk football or cricket or fashion or LGBTQ+ rights with, that's entirely their prerogative. Companies and teams aren't just money printers, but also communities. You can't expect to fit into all communities.

likefunnyuplifting

Guys how is PWC hyd, bhopal or Dehradun location? Do we receive same treatment (hikes, perks and growth) wrt to blore nd Kolkata?

like

Guys Could you please help me with a referral in PwC .. preferred Location Kolkata

YOE 1 YR 10 MONTH
Technology - Sql, FTL, Jira, jenkins, Bitbucket,Agile Methodologies , Htmlcss, bootstrap, angular (beginner level), Core java

*Ready to move to New Technology


currently in notice period 29days left ..if you have anything me , please help 😊

like

Hello Fishes

How is the WLB, annual hike, work culture in MasterCard?
Role- Middleware

Additional Posts in Corporate Transactional Law

Does anyone have insights into corporate group at Saul Ewing? Culture, pay etc.?

like

First 70 billable hour week and am dying. How do some of you do this on a regular basis?

like

Who’s planning on leaving after getting their bonus?

like

Are there State/federal (or other laws) that govern the closure of a store? The entity owns other stores and will not be dissolving. Just shutting down one of its stores.

likehelpful

Is it possible to be a “silent” investor (party A) with a friend who’s an accredited investor (party B)investing in a company? So if B is investing $50k in a company, and A wants to give B $25k of that investment, is this possible with an agreement between A and B, where they’re responsible for their own portion of taxes?

Do any real estate lawyers out there know of/can direct me to a ROFO agreement to purchase commercial property? I’m working on one now (but using a ROFO to purchase equity interests as a basis) and would like to see what other people are doing. Finding a good one has been hard, as this kind of thing isn’t always required to be filed with the sec and every search I’ve done basically pulls up garbage. Also, are there any provisions you’d consider absolutely crucial from the owner’s side?

like

As the indemnified party, do you exclude Indemnity obligations from the LoL cap?

like

Rising 2nd year here: been rethinking my choice as an M&A attorney. I've had a rough go of it over the first year-and-a-half of practice and am thinking about moving to a different practice area. I'd like to stay on the transactional side, but am not quite sure what areas I can leverage my corporate and M&A skills in. I was thinking T&E (i.e. business succession planning, etc.)

Would greatly appreciate input from others.

like

Any book recommendations on Clinical Trial Agreements?

like

Working on a deal where buyer's side keeps on insisting on a POA to effectuate all actions of Seller under the agreement, including executing documents. I keep striking this and commenting that this is not standard. Has anyone dealt with this? I am okay with a limited POA based on the industry of the Seller, but not this general POA.

What is Citis C12 equivalence in TD? ( I am in Citi Canada and have offer of L10 at TD Canada)

likehelpful

Anyone looking to relocate or in Cinci Ohio to work for a great team in a wonderful top 100 firm… dm me please! :)

Any suggestions on resources for corporate contract drafting? I have been largely responsible for employment matters and basic contracts. Starting to work on buy/sell of goods and services; not huge but also not employment agreements. Looking for refreshers... been a while since law school and the bar. Thanks

like

Deal Lingo - I’ve seen a “Book of Banking Jargon” from L&Ws. Is there one out there for M&A? Also does anyone really know what dupe/duped means?! I use it not fully understanding it’s meaning. (Junior Tag)

like

On a contract negotiation call, opposing counsel kept making sports references, such as “You got four out of six here, take the win and leave this one alone” in regards to reasonable modification...

Tips for becoming more independent as you progress from junior to midlevel? I am starting to be put into the position of just having to handle things including drafting and could use some advice from others.

like

Any firms in London hiring US qualified associates into their capital markets practice?

like

Anyone use charts for contract review? If so, what headings do you put in the first row?

likefunny

Currently a staff attorney in US firm, hoping to secure the permanent position as Associate after contract ends. Any advice?

like

I recently left the gov’t for private practice with a M&A group. How does everyone bill when you are thinking about how to structure it and what docs need to get drafted? I’m learning that billing is an art so any canned language would be great!

likehelpful

New to Fishbowl?

Download the Fishbowl app to
unlock all discussions on Fishbowl.
That was just a preview…
Sign Up to see all discussions
  • Discover what it’s like to work at companies from real professionals
  • Get candid advice from people in your field in a safe space
  • Chat and network with other professionals in your field
Sign up in seconds to unlock all discussions on Fishbowl.

Already a user?
Login here

Share

Embed this post

Copy and paste embed code on your site

Preview

Download the
Fishbowl app

See what’s happening in your industry
from the palm of your hand.

A phone with Fishbowl app

Scan your QR code to download
Fishbowl app on your mobile

Download app

Sign up for free to view this conversation on Fishbowl

By continuing you agree to Terms of Use and Privacy Policy

Already have an account? Log in

Sign up for free to continue using Fishbowl

By continuing you agree to Terms of Use(New) and Privacy Policy(New)
Messaging rates may apply

Already have an account? Log in

For account settings, visit Fishbowl on Desktop Browser or

General

Legal