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How do you guys schedule your hours? Say I need to hit 200 hours per month. Currently I take the amount of working days in a month (M-F) and divide it by 200 to get how many hours I need to bill per day. For example, May has 20 working days, so I need to bill 10hrs./day M-F. I’ve done exactly that thus far and have been able to stick to a pretty consistent schedule. But I know a lot work on weekends. For instance, if I worked Saturdays too there are 25 billable days which means 8hrs/day.

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Work normally, then desperately pull all-nighters beginning on the 25th

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The sole reason I hate myself.

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I try not to factor in weekends since I like to avoid working them (with varying success). I usually aim for 7-8/day and plan for a long day each week (usually Tuesday or Wednesday and 10-12 hours) and a short day (usually Friday, 6 hours).

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I generally try to aim for 10 hours a day. I put in time on the weekends maybe 2-3 times a month, usually just a few hours at a time.

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I work backwards on an annual basis, and factor in how much time I want to take off over the year. Then I calculate how often I want a weekend/weekend day away from the office.

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I’m lucky enough (if you can say it like that) where my job has enough work where it’s constant every day and I can basically pick and choose how often/when I work as long as I hit my monthly goal.

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I keep an excel spreadsheet for the year so I know what I need to do each month to stay on my annual target. Then I divide by working days just as you described. I occasionally work on weekends but not frequently.

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What’s a typical day’s schedule for you to get 10 hours in?

It’s super easy to bill in our practice area and we are way too busy.. and I am super efficient as well. It’s a nice mix that lets me capture a good portion of my hours.

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