I've been struggling with this too, and for similar reasons as my husband and I want to start a family and I can't help but feeling like it would be unfair to move into a critical leadership role then leave for half a year. It's frustrating that we have to think about things like this. Has any women here been faced with the same dilemma?

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Companies never bat an eye when they need to layoff thousands of people just after hiring some of them. Companies always do what they believe is best for them. Employees should too. You want the promotion, take the promotion. You want to start thinking about a family, start thinking about a family.

This sort of hesitation, more common in women than in men, is part of what then leads to gender pay gaps.

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I have the opposite problem - I want a promotion and am being told no without feedback for how I can get there. ‘No’ is feedback itself, yet it’s hard knowing I don’t have support of my manager to advance. That’s where I waste precious energy.

No one is ever ready for a new role. If you have been offered it, just do it. Learn on the job and figure it out along the way

And if you need even more of a push to stop the analysis paralysis, a man would not hesitate or waste energy on this. They would have accepted it AND negotiated a pay increase as well ;)

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I had the same problem too when I was trying to advance to manager. Held me back an additional 6 months for no reason since I got overlooked by the partners in my firm. A guy with less experience, less revenue in his portfolio and less project management work was promoted. We both had the same ratings and were top performers but he was in the “guy’s club”. When I did get promoted, they promoted another guy with even fewer years of experience with me and lower ratings.

Used to be like OP but the experience changed my views of the firm and how I move in business. If you think it’s a good role for you, go for it! Yes there may be chances it doesn’t work out and yes there may be chances you don’t have the right skills. But you got the offer for that job. It means you are capable of learning and rising to meet the challenges of the role.

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It is important to remember that a lot of people are actually having those thoughts when it comes to a big role, and they are still taking it. Agree that if you want it you should take it. I understand though thinking through different aspects, but the hesitation doesn’t pay off for you.

OP, men never think about this! I have never heard a man feel guilty, express that he feels or felt guilty about taking any position and then going out on leave because his wife had a baby. Ever! Don’t you do it. Like somebody mentioned earlier companies, layoff thousands of people at the blink of an eye let them pay for the time that you’re in go take the leadership role. You have to look out for you. The extra money will come in handy when you decide to have the baby. Ladies, never hesitate, men don’t do it, why should we!?

Interesting how there are so many "men don't do this or think that" responses from women. Let's reverse that for a moment and imagine men typing about what women think/feel. I agree go for the promotion because you've earned it and wanting to have a family isn't a reason to limit your career growth. But maybe....just maybe you aren't anymore qualified to declare how a man would handle the situation as a women, then the opposite. Maybe you should pursue it because you should rather than because you think that is a what a man would do.

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