So every new hire, all yt women, came into the office looking like they were on their to a Walmart run (I love Wal-Mart BTW). One wore an oversized Sherpa hoodie, jeans and messy side swept ponytail with hair falling out of all corners. Another was in yoga-ish pants & a short sleeve tee. These are their typical looks in office. Have you noticed the same thing in your offices? Are the yt women particularly more casual than you as an attorney of color re: work clothes?

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Ah. I see it now. Yt!

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Yes. I have noticed this, too.

And then they make comments about me dressing up too much. “It’s okay to wear jeans!” There is an element of being uncomfortable with POC who might out-dress and thus out-status them.

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That’s wild. I’ve never seen people dress like this at my firm.

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Definitely. YT staff and attys at my firm look like they’re dressing down all the time. Not just casual Fridays

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