Will you take 30% pay cut to allow permanent remote if your current job is 5 days in office

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I recently went through something similar and I used chatGPT to help me determine if it was the right move. I asked it to calculate the average cost of commuting (gas, tolls, car maintenance, coffee, lunches, etc) over a year to see how much of my salary was going towards commuting. I gave it my current salary, expected salary. I compared benefits. And got a complete picture of the differences. I ultimately chose to leave. I’ve been at my remote job for a month and it was definitely the right move for me. If you can afford it and it makes sense for your lifestyle/career aspirations, I would seriously consider it. I do not, for even one minute, miss being in the office.

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Don't forget that you might be dropped to a lower tax bracket.

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I am more productive when I work from home 👀

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Same !!! 100%

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Depends on how much that cut is, how much travelling costs me in time and money.

Are you on drugs?

30% is steep, id definitely take a pay cut to work from home though.

you need to factor in your daily / weekly cost - gas, food, parking etc. If your spending close to that or more to travel into the office then it may be worth the pay cut to stay remote. if its only costing you $10.00 a week and your cut is $500 a week than not worth it

Yes

maybe, is my current company paying top rates? then probably yes, but if the company is paying average rates no, because there are average rates full remote.

Working from home is a lot more effective and efficient. No distractions, no small talk and unnecessary chatting with people from work. You get a lot more done working from home than working from the office (this is if you are a responsible person that can be trusted - a men and not a man child). So no way I'd take a payment cut. Companies can save a lot of money on offices, transportation refunds for employees and more if they allow people to work from home.

Yes if my job required little interaction. 30% is a bit much though. 10% yes. 30% maybe worth the travel time

We have 2 departments in our business. one comprised of people facing team members, who are more productive working from home, because they are less distracted. Our other team comprising primarily people with varying degrees of neuro diversity, have that dogged determination to resolve a problem, and the belief that they are the only person to be able to do it. Their preference is certainly to work remotely , but that makes it very difficult for other team members to help, because noone sees them getting frustrated, or hitting brick walls, and of course, they have no expectation (from life experience) that anyone other than them might be able to contribute, so they plough on, regardless. That 30% is certainly appropropriate, for their employers, due to the lack of productivity this behaviour brings about. The lack of appreciation of this is evident in some comments here. Better climate, and reduced commuting I appreciate. Jobsworth, not so much..

I'm not a fan of remote work personally. It works for some, for others it's an excuse to hide from the team. I enjoy the in-person camaraderie, 5 minute huddles ups in the hallway etc. If i thought of myself as a drone, I'd be ok with staying remote. I'm a leader, not a drone, and want to be available to my coworkers in person if need be.

No. 10%, maybe. I am single with no dependents so no savings in childcare. My commute is only 7 miles, so there would be MINIMAL savings in gas/insurance/etc.
For me, there would be not point to such a substantial financial loss.

No. I do as much work at home as in the office. The company also saves by not supporting commercial real estate. It’s false that you should take a cut at all.

not a chance, 30% far too steep a cut ....I was on full remote for the covid years, then Boeing did first stage of RTO and had employees wanting to remain remote or hybrid go thru a screening process that had to go up to VP for green light, I took it all the way up and was green lit for only Weds every week on site ...ie: 4 days per month, the rest remote from home ....that lasted roughly 2 years until Boeing stage 2 "mandated" full RTO, especially the commercial teams in Puget Sound ....now ? on 4 x 10s, Fridays off every week ....I'm ok with this as my commute is 10 min both directions

Absolutely not. Working from home is one step closer to being an independent contractor. More costs associated with the employment are offloaded onto the employee, who does not have the same access to bulk pricing that an employer would have. These company funds associated with the employment that weren't going towards the employee compensation aren't even enough to cover the added costs to the employee to achieve the same employment investment. All of those funds and more are required as costs reimbursement for the employee, who must now take on the responsibilities of their own office management and is deserving of an even further actual pay raise accordingly.

If it was still a fair market salary for my skills and experience, maybe. But I won't work for less than I'm worth, and I won't work for a company with a toxic culture. WFH is more productive in many cases and should not be penalized without cause.

Well, remote work has its perks but the isolation got me thinking that if you’re not forced to go you’d might choose to go.. 1-2 times per week to the office. I’m 100% remote as no office in the area but I would definitely go to a close by office if I could…

A company pays for my experience and outcomes, not location. I'd look at the want for 5 days in the office as a symptom of leadership issues and see if those could be resolved by presenting research, using it to shine a light on the process and policy deficiencies in the system (e.g. lack of training and mentoring so expecting skills transfer by 'magic' in an office setting. A want for micro-management. A focus on outputs not outcomes. etc.). If the company I was working for didn't shift then it's probably not be the place for me and I'd move to a company with more of a modern, forward looking approach, or want to move to one.

A 30% calculation is also strange, as it takes no account for actual salary. In some countries there's an uplift based on work location (e.g. 'London weighting'), and if 100% remote it may be practical to remove that, but if they want people in the office sometimes or it's hybrid then I'd suggest not. There are still costs incurred working remotely, and those need covering just the same as travel to an office does.

What you do is, you count your window time, for the commute, as when you start work. Basically getting OT. And you include any and all expenses for that commute.

Company may question it. However, kindly tell them you'll gladly leave your home at the start time for your work schedule as leaving before then is when you're on the clock.

As always, check your labor laws.

Not a chance. I am not diminishing my buying power to work from home. I enjoy going into the office and my company pays for a portion of my commute. Not enough perks in working from home to take a pay cut.

Heck no, maybe some for the working from home, but all they're saving me is wear and tear and gas, that's not 30%. We still have rising costs of everything, not going away soon, companies can find another way or another plan to save money

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