Big 4 associates: what ratio of your work is litigation compared to advice/counseling (ie ee handbooks, company policy writing, etc). Do shareholders look down on associates who prefer advice/counseling work?

like
Posting as :
works at
You are currently posting as works at

This will vary office to office at Jackson Lewis. You typically only work with the partners in your office, so you do what work they can delegate.

like

Thank you!

like

In my experience at Littler shareholders didn’t care what you did as long as you met your hours. I was like 40% advice and counsel when I was there.

like

Interesting, thanks very much! That’s more advice and counseling than I would have thoughts.

like

80% litigation/20% advice and counseling

like

Thank you!

like

Related Posts

Salaams!

Anyone hiring Program Managers (Technical or Non-Technical) or Engagement Managers? Currently with Big 4. Please let me know!

YOE: 6-7
Location: Washington DC area

like

Getting so many replies for referrals to big 4 but how likely will I get hired lol? Tried it once and never got a word back.

like

Just been offered a manager position (people & org consulting) at a big 4 in Qatar for 24k (QAR). Based on previous threads this seems low for the region. Especially as 9k goes towards accommodation (max unfurnished 1br) ....Have I been low balled? Or is this normal?

Any insights on the London Big 4 bonus range for SM (tax)?

like

For those that are familiar with the Big 4 AAS practice, which one has the largest market in NYC/Boston? I was extend a couple of offers and am having trouble deciding which one to take. TIA.

like

I have gathered that aside from MBB, ACN pays their employees the most and pretty significantly more than big 4. Jumping 🚢 A$AP.

like

How much do entry level positions get paid at MBB or Big 4 for consulting?

like

Deals strategy at a big 4 firm like PwC or a smaller VDD-focused shop like LEK?

like

Targeting 2022 matriculation and will be recruiting for tech. Currently at IBM tech consulting and have an offer to lateral to non-D big 4 tech advisory. What’s the best move for both MBA application and MBA recruiting - stay or leave? TIA.

like

For those who have gone from one big 4 to another…was it frowned upon by your superiors/looked at as a slap in the face, even if your intentions are to leave on good terms?

MBB peeps - what is your experience working with people that came from Big 4/Accenture (excluding those who came from strategy arms of B4)?

I am disappointed in the talent we have here at PwC and A) am looking to switch B) nervous that we don’t have a good reputation based on who I’ve worked with here

likefunny

Anyone moved from big 4 to CohnReznick? Even worth it?

like

Risk assurance senior and planning to leave for industry to do security compliance soon. Would want to come back to big 4 to do security consulting, how should I plan out my career route? Just a lost young soul who graduated from college 2 years back...

like

Is there such things as FP&A positions in Big 4? If so, are there better times to make the change than others (I.e. at senior vs manager)? I’m currently in FP&A and looking to work at a Big 4, or another company that offers the ability to move abroad. My current company and many others I know about do not offer the mobility to do so until much later, which is not what I want. Thank you.

like
like

Hi everyone,

I have got the ey hr mail stating i should provide him with aadhar card, information sheet and latest resume for a audit and assurance contract for 6 months as iam a semi qualified CA.

Here my question is should i take this opportunity. Cause since this is only for 6 months. After that, what i can do, where should I try to get the job?

In mid size firms, people won't pay as much as big 4 pays.

Should I take it or am I making a mistake by taking this.

like

Decided that I’m leaving audit today. Trying to understand the full range of opportunities in forensics. Will have my CPA and CFE. So far, I understand that there are client-serving firms like FTI and then the B4 will have forensics arms as well. What are some other forensic accounting roles? Pros and cons? Better than audit? Honestly just looking to learn anything.

like

Looking to return to Big 4 as a consultant now that I have some experience; however, I’m not sure if the reason I’m not getting any interviews is because of covid or what’s on my resume/lack thereof. Has anyone gotten hired at Big 4 during this time and have any help or insight for me? Thanks!

like

Let's post salaries, I'll go first senior 2 ITS 83k big 4

like

More Posts

Why do you enjoy Boston (as opposed to other cities)?

like

I've been living here for a while but still haven't been out to Lake Norman. Would you recommend? All insider tips are welcome lol

like

Hey guys!

Can anyone give me ideas for remote jobs that can be done at my own time?

I work 9-5 and i would love to work a remote job during nights and weekends...

like

Anybody know anybody who has given it all up to lead a life serving others in need? How did it pan out for them?

like

Long post alert; I have been interviewing with a b4 for a senior con role since Mar end. Cleared all the rounds including case study and got strong rating as well as good feedback. Fast forward to last week, the talent POC calls me up and informs that she has asked the business if the position is still open, because now they just need the business approval to roll out the offer. I immediately felt demotivated as to ‘why now’ after all rounds have been cleared (continued in the comment below)

like

Best halal food in Montreal?!

like

Has anyone come to you for help?

Remember that these people asked Allah first, and Allah gave them your address for you to help them.

like

What are your favorite restaurants/activities that are a quick drive from the city?

like

To those at V25 firms, how do you view your London office in terms of the quality of work we get and overall importance to the firm? Like is there a perception of us being a step down or ancillary to the big leagues of NYC or not? There’s generally a perception here that L&W and K&E are the only US firms where London can even begin to compete with stateside in terms of generating l work organically but would be interesting to know what you all think? Be brutally honest.

like

Hello, I am currently having 6 years of experience in US Taxation in Partnership(1065) Federal. Currently I am in the position of Assistant manager, I have cracked the interview of a few Big 4 companies.
Whats the Fixed CTC should I ask for?

Till when can we do WFH? I am doing since March 20. Any guidance for future?

like

Hey y’all, wanted to get some insight into an offer.

Director level sales role
250k OTE 60/40 split uncapped
325k stock 4 year vest (options) - pre IPO unicorn
10k sign on bonus

I’ve got about 8-9 years in enterprise sales /mgt

This job is not for women with kids unless you go on some sort of reduced schedule or stay up super late most nights after the kids are asleep. This is so impossible!! 😖 just needed to vent somewhere

like

Are my crypto profits taxed?

Well yes. Crypto is taxed like stocks & other types of property. When you sell for a profit, you are required to pay tax on the gains. It’s called capital gains tax.

like

I have joined infosys today . Having experience in IoT , Azure and. Net
Is there anyone can guide me to land in azure project in infosys.
I'm not confident the Talent Acquisition or HR team will gave the exact technology as per our Intrest or skill.

When are the promotion cycles for WPP agencies?

like

Need advise!! I am L5 Amazonian and been asked to transition into different role/scope of work (in a positive way) in the same function/team. Is it advisable to ask for compensation increase?

like

Hi guys if terminated from the company,how to find the next job?

like

I have offer from capgemini and Cognizant.. I have worked in capgemini before as devops admin and later i switched to Java developer role. So if i join capgemini again will they do the bg check for my work.
Need your valuable suggestion only 15 days left for my LWD.
YOE:- 6.3yrs

like

Additional Posts in Labor & Employment Attorneys

Hello, I’m an associate (almost at the one year mark) at a midsize firm on the EPL team. I did about 2 years of employment law as a clerk during school and know that’s what I want to go into. I’ve asked for more EPL work but keep catching PI cases. I second-chaired an employment trial but don’t see any EPL work for the foreseeable future and wasn’t getting as much EPL exposure as I wanted before the trial. Any advice on a lateral move to a bigger firm with a broader range of EPL work?

like

Looking for a Freelancer to assist with drafting employment law demand letters or Complaints. Comprehensive templates provided. Message me if interested. Thanks!

like

Is EPLI work truly unbearable or is it decent in moderation? Is it worth it to apply to a firm that prioritizes EPLI?

like

Can someone walk through a general day-to-day if an in-house employment lawyer? Thanks in advance!

like

Do people know if the big 4 are all wfh and onboarding that way as well? Or have they started setting return to office dates?

like

What's the hiring process like for a littler case smart attorney? Is it easier to get a case smart position compared to an associate position? Not that I want to be an associate there, but just trying to see if I have a solid chance.

like

What is considered a “large” caseload in employment litigation? I work at a large L&E boutique law firm and handling about 14-15 active litigation cases in state/federal court or arbitration. Some of these matters are multi-plaintiff and multi-defendant cases, but none are class actions. This does not include any matters I am handling in the charge stage or in pre-litigation. Not sure if that’s a typical caseload or not?

like

Has anyone here gotten a job through FB or, if you’re a hiring atty, recruited a good candidate?

like

Anyone work at Allen Norton & Blue? Any insight on salary and work life balance?

like

How many rounds of interviews for Jackson lewis? How long is the whole process from application to getting offer/rejection?

like

Honest answers only: what got you interested in this industry? Do you enjoy your work?

helpful

Does anyone know of any good CLEs that address complex issues re:multi-state employers/remote employees?

like

What are some of the better L&E group in biglaw?

like

When Ogletree announced its modified associate bonus I heard it also announced a one-time bonus for non-equity shareholders in addition to NES’ standard bonus program. Any insight if associates can also expect a one time bonus in addition to the standard bonus program?

like

Looking to change practice area to employment law - tips?

like

How is everyone’s workload? I was insanely busy the last month but the past week or so has slowed significantly.

like

Need advice - I've been talking to a Partner contact at a big-4 firm where I REALLY want to work. She sent my info to the managing partner in my city, but I haven't heard anything for about 3 weeks. Been playing it cool because I know these things can take time, BUT, I just got let go from my current firm. I have til 12/15 to find a new job.

Do I tell her my timeline is now a month, or is telling them I'm getting fired going to tank my chances of getting the job?

like

Any insight into Ogletree Atlanta?

like

What plaintiff’s firms are known for offering their attorneys the highest salary?

likefunny

I’m working at an insurance defense firm, trying to target my practice to L&E. I’m overworked and underpaid, but gaining valuable experience I hope to pivot toward an eventual in-house counsel position. I recently was offered an opportunity to lateral to a national firm for a significant pay increase (150% salary increase, much better benefits, hybrid WFH options). Problem-I would be shifting gears to Toxic Tort. I’m torn between my passion and the money. I’m a second year associate. WWYD?

like

New to Fishbowl?

Download the Fishbowl app to
unlock all discussions on Fishbowl.
That was just a preview…
Sign Up to see all discussions
  • Discover what it’s like to work at companies from real professionals
  • Get candid advice from people in your field in a safe space
  • Chat and network with other professionals in your field
Sign up in seconds to unlock all discussions on Fishbowl.

Already a user?
Login here

Share

Embed this post

Copy and paste embed code on your site

Preview

Download the
Fishbowl app

See what’s happening in your industry
from the palm of your hand.

A phone with Fishbowl app

Scan your QR code to download
Fishbowl app on your mobile

Download app

Sign up for free to view this conversation on Fishbowl

By continuing you agree to Terms of Use and Privacy Policy

Already have an account? Log in

Sign up for free to continue using Fishbowl

By continuing you agree to Terms of Use(New) and Privacy Policy(New)
Messaging rates may apply

Already have an account? Log in

For account settings, visit Fishbowl on Desktop Browser or

General

Legal