Ever stare at a case file for an hour, know you read everything, but have zero clue what you just absorbed? That guilt of wasted billable time is the worst. Anyone find ways to stay present?

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Yes! Copious notes while reviewing is the only way that works for me. I will not remember anything otherwise.

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Yup, sounds like my life.

Gotta warm up the engine before pushing it hard…

I like to handwrite some notes to get that process going.

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Try creating a system of note taking for each case file. I find a simple chronology to also be helpful for putting the pieces together.

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Create a doc index on an excel sheet with a column for notes where you summarize the document. Helps when you’re doing it and later when you need to look something up.

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Check in during the process. If you don't know what happened on the last page you read, take a break/stop/get some water

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I just read it a million times

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