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Subject Expert
I have not noticed this at all. But regardless, personally, I dressed up way more as a junior because it was exciting! I was poor and I had money to buy nicer clothes for the first time, was working in a fancy office for the first time. Now the excitement has long ago worn off and I dress like a comfortable slob. Let them have their fun.
Enthusiast
back in my day we dressed in burlap sacks for our 10-mile walk up the hill to work, and we LIKED IT
Subject Expert
The more I see OP’s comments, the more I sense the passive aggressiveness. Why do you care about what brands other attorneys are wearing? Any body on a big law salary can comfortably afford to dress well if that’s their intent. Nobody bats an eye when people wore the same zip-up vests daily in the summer and called that work place appropriate (myself included). Are we really criticizing people for dressing well and coming to the office?
P.S. most people will spend more on luxury accessories (handbag, watches, shoes, etc.) and then pair with a more affordable brand for their shirts, blazers, dresses, etc.
Enthusiast
Thats exactly what I do. I bought Rolex (second hand) with my summer associate salary, and then bought a LV and YSL bags when I started as a first year (also second hand). I pair them with affordable Calvin Klein, Tommy Hilfeger and WHBM clothes.
Subject Expert
I’ve never seen this
Coach
Lol if I said it would almost certainly be immediately obvious who I was bc there aren’t too many counsel
Mentor
Damn stop hating on our drip lmao
I mean we get paid the same amount (if anything purchasing power of a BL salary has dropped in HCOL areas) so if you looked “raggedy” maybe that’s on you?
Mentor
Maybe because we get paid a quarter of a million dollars a year and we care about how we look? The first thing I did was go to Neiman Marcus and purchase a suit from Armani, Tom Ford, and Canali.
Mentor
Lol so A36 doesn’t understand what purchasing power is — got it
Coach
They’re taking their fashion cues from the senior associates.
Though I will say, I wish my suits fit as well as his…👀
Subject Expert
Growing up with Instagram has warped Gen Z into being the most materialistic generation of Americans ever, for all their socialist posturing.
They also have had more cosmetic surgery by their respective ages than any other generation, likely for similar reasons.
Mentor
Uhh.. that I’d like to appear youthful and not hate the next generation? It’s a joke, but clearly someone is super insecure lol
I wish I had dressed more like that when I had the chance! I was so worried about loans that I didn’t really buy anything nice, and now that I’m debt-free, I’m been working from home for three years, gained a ton of weight, and basically not domesticated anymore. So to all of you kids reading this, go get it while you can!!
Enthusiast
I feel this so hard.
Coach
Cont: I’m seeing brand names like Celine and LV bags that are at least a few thousand, Balenciaga, Gucci, Dior, Bergdorf shoes, Cartier watches and bracelets…and they’re not wearing the same thing every day… feeling like Anna Delvey is showing up to tell me I look poor. Anybody else seeing this?! There’s only
a handful of juniors that are matching the slovenliness of the rest of the firm
Coach
Rebag is another great place for secondhand bags.
I’m confused about your real question. Is it how do new associates afford nice clothes? Or is it why does this generation of new associates care about dressing nice?
Regardless, every generation of big law associates could afford nice clothes if they wanted them. The difference is what they want, value, prioritize. Big law has never paid a bad salary. Even when the salary was lower, the dollar went just as far especially in Houston considering it used to be a LCOL city. The new associates are probably paying triple what you paid in rent 20 years ago.
The other answer to your question is social media. Influencers are more relatable than celebrities. This generation is becoming attorneys when work wear is spotlighted in places like TikTok. Compared to generations ago, no one talked about workwear. It wasn’t “cool.”
Coach
To me CeCe looks extravagant but like I said I came up in a different era
Don’t come for Cece 😤
Coach
Yeah not sure what’s with the random potshot at her
And yes if it’s literally something new every day it’s probably RTR
I’ve had a RTR subscription and loved it. I care about how I look/love clothes. Looking good (obvs on top of doing good work) has not failed me yet.
Junior here - I dress in $30 polos and $50 chinos. I got too many loans. Note that loans are paused though so a lot of juniors just living it up for now
Coach
But the loans are still going to be there and BigLaw might not??? You’re smart JA1 idk about your colleagues though but I guess that’s not my problem
Coach
I think part of it might be that there are more affordable brands that look good today than in the past. Competition in the fashion world has really accelerated with e-commerce.
I don’t understand the problem with it though? If they can afford and care enough, then push on 🫡
Mentor
People looked nice 20 years ago! I worked at Cravath then, and we wore suits every day!
So did Wall Street. Now it's all Patagonia vests. Alas
Enthusiast
I smell Boomer lol
Subject Expert
I havent seen this lol, but like yes please. Let's look nice instead of the slovenly halfway house that is business casual.
ok casual it is
Mentor
I’ve worn designer stuff since college because I like it. Bags and shoes are my vice. I save up for them because I like them. Everyone is different. I’d just mind my own business. Doesn’t affect you.