I get so annoyed when partners keep assigning me non-billable work to do and then I get scolded because of my billable hours… I’m still doing my job when I’m doing “non-billable” work I shouldn’t be penalized at the end of the year for being a junior associate who can’t say no to people.

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Seriously. I get told to prioritize billable work. But then I got bitched out by a partner because I kept asking for extensions on nonbillable work (which I hadn't asked for or affirmatively agreed to) because billable work kept coming up.

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I just keep reminding them that billable work takes priority as they have requested. Even if they never requested it, rarely have I been questioned bc partners say all sorts of crap they don’t remember. Then when they tell me they didn’t say that, I shrug my shoulders and say really? So you don’t want me to prioritize billable work?

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Then, in addition to the above, start finding more junior attorneys to pass that stuff onto.

This! I used to spend 30-40hours working on ppts for my partners’ presentation…then they came in and ask why I didn’t reach my billable target that month…

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Don’t do non-billable work. Tell them to respectfully pound sand.

I wish I could but when partners look at my hours and say they’re too low and I’m turning down non-billable work at the same time… I’m not sure what my response should be at that point 😳

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