I recently had a tiff with my manager. Basically a discussion that should have taken 15 minutes extended to an hour. When I escalated this to my director, she agreed with me that it was too...

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Unless you are certain these individuals are not active on FB, I would be careful posting this much situational information. It could easily aggravate the situation more.

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Thanks for the heads up - no they're not.

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indulgent of the manager (M) to sound off on me on such a trivial matter and that it shouldn't have taken that long.
*before escalating this to my director (D), I made an attempt to clear the air with M - but, believe it or not - she got super defensive and when I asked her "could I catch you for 10 minutes to discuss something?" she replied "I'll be busy until Q2 next year" O_O
So, my D had a sit down with the both of us, and again, the M got super defensive and interrupted me saying "this is not important". When D asked M about the communication I had with M on her availability until Q2 next year she said it was very snobbish to which the M just got quiet. Then as D went on to say that the discussion should not have taken more than 15 minutes, M got triggered and stormed out.
Long story short, it was an ugly discussion!
Fast forward to now, D told me that she shall handle the manager and told me to focus on my deliverables -- definitely there is some tension at the moment, and it makes me uncomfortable. I know the extent of what happened was only in terms of a discussion (nothing physical), however, the M definitely is just acting so cool and it IRRITATES ME!
I am definitely distancing myself from this individual.

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I think the D should have had the conversation privately with the M. That’s the right thing to do - reduces tension, doesn’t put somebody on the spot in front of the ‘accuser’ etc.. Either way, you escalated, which is what you’re expected to do. And D has your back, so all good.

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I agree with D1. If you’re venting/discussing this, who’s to say the M isn’t. Maybe someone she knows and confides in is active on FB.

Either way, this person sounds like an awful manager, I can empathize. In these situations, I just deal with the person on a transaction level basis—nothing more, nothing less. Good luck OP!

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Can't believe you're airing out our dirty laundry here and painting yourself as the saint. You're leaving out details and I'm gonna let D know what you're doing

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Accenture 1, i second that!

Good for the D to have your back!

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Yup! i made it clear to the D that i wouldnt have escalated everything unless necessary, and i did try to talk it out to M first- but her response of being available only at Q2 next year triggered me - workplace bullying is not okay.

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Unfortunate that you have to go through this. We assume leaders got to where they’re by their level-headedness and pragmatism. But unfortunately, some may need leadership training to further develop those skills.

If anything, this teaches you how you can become a better leader when you’re in that position. Never let a crisis go wasted.

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"Never let a crisis go wasted"

well said.

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I sense we have too much of this kind of drama on our projects.

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well, glad to offer a first hand experience...how did yours go?😬😬

Has this been a regular behavior for this M or was it a one off? Is she maybe going through something and needs more support around her?

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Doesnt matter. She had several chances, 3 chances to be exact from Op’s words, to change her behavior.

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Take the higher ground. It’ll drive her insane

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pls advise how 🤗

You’re lucky to have a good D

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Thanks for noticing that😇

How long between the tiff and you actually escalating? Sometimes people just need a days/week to calm down. So I’m hoping you didn’t escalate right away..

definately. we spoke on Monday and I took some time to sit on it before approaching her on Thursday. the fact that she got ultra defendsive ("I'm only free Q2 next year") told me something was not right. but yes, thanks for your words.

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