I'm at a smaller accounting firm. I make 104k. I feel like I should be making about 50% more. I've been there over 10 years. We have about 65 on staff. For the first 9 years I wish did all the policy and procedure reviews for financial institutions and all the internal stuff. Now I supervise that team and review all their work. Plus I supervise the support team for over 140 users. Median pay in my state for an IT Director is 176k base comp. I've asked for more for years, never got me than 5%

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The answer is so simple. Can’t believe you are asking.

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Hard part is my kids. Can't leave them for 6 more years.

Interview and see what offers you get ! It never hurts to go through the process. You just might find a role that is also flexible or even more and pays better! Small CPA firms can be rough.

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And you will get offers. Take advantage of the huge salary increases you can captivate on while they last. If you don’t feel right about something, you don’t have to give notice! :)

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OP I’m in Canada, and our IT Audit Senior Managers in Banks gets paid more even with currency exchange. You need to change, go out of your comfort zone a bit and explore.

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Could be, but then you don’t need them. It is also possible that many jobs published already have internal candidates. So they really don’t need you. But you only need 1 job. My personal experience is that 50-60 odd applications will give 5-6 interviews- which will give you at least 2 offers- you just need 1.

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The reason I haven't moved is because the flexibility is top notch, I work remote 70% of the time. The hardest part is I'm divorced and need to stay near my kids for custody. I have no certs, just experience and a degree in MIS. But for now, I have to have a remote position. I could travel. But home base would have to be my home. Unless it was near. It's hard. I can't leave my kids.

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Independent or internal?

Please consider moving... sooner the better. DM me for referral

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If you want a pwc referral let me know. We are currently fully remote for at least the next year.

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There is a bonus associated with referrals for sure, that said, Crowe sounds perfect for you. I work in Ohio, and we have multiple managers and above that are completely remote and out of state bc they don’t want to move bc of kids. And with Crowes size you’ll get paid what you’re looking for no doubt, maybe more. We have “unlimited PTO” (aka get your work done and no one will think twice if you take time off). Crowe also just gives off 4th of July week and Christmas week for everyone. I personally took 2 international vacations this year and still got promoted and great reviews. We also have more banking clients than any other accounting firm I believe. Plus Crowe def wants more IT people, and if you’ve made it to director you must be good, so you’d prob be a shoe in. Happy to chat more if you DM

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So, I’ve heard both sides of this. When Crowe changed to unlimited they stopped paying out unused PTO. And depending on the firm/culture/office I can see where it has the potential for managers to say no to your PTO requests bc “we need you to work” type of thing. My personal experience has been good and managers have always respected my time off. I don’t check email or anything during that time. Bc of that I think it’s led to an overall more flexible experience which for me has outweighed a formal PTO system. By the end of the year I’ll have had about 6 weeks off, and that’s in charging both a public and private client load. I continue to get good reviews and promotions, so for me unlimited has been good

Please move. Need a referral?

OP - the reason multiple complete strangers on the internet are offering you job referrals without even knowing you, your background, credentials, competency, or character is an indicator how desperate public accounting firms are to hire people. The market is forcing the firms to drive up salaries, bonuses, and yes, referral bonuses in order to try and recruit and retain people.
This is the best time in about 20-30 years to be in accounting (salary wise) so if your current firm is not meeting market, start looking. It sounds like you might not be in the most urban part of the country, and that is fine. You can pretty much negotiate working from anywhere.

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Same. DM me for a referral to RSM!

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MIS is literally the best possible degree to have right now. Too much demand, not enough candidates. You can easily get 150k+ fully remote. Definitely take some referrals. If you don’t know the acronyms, just Google them and it should clear up any confusion. Most of the referrals here around going to be from huge firms like PwC, ey, bdo, rsm, etc so it won’t be too hard to look them up. Can you please share what city you’re in so we can gauge your market? Or Atleast the state?

I DM'd you. However. I'm in Kansas.

10 years as an IT director? Bruhhh those folks are making high 100K or even 200K I would think at larger firm

Much higher than that at the director level. But because I'm at a small firm, it's a little different when you look at titles.

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