Is going from Deloitte (tech strategy and not monitor) to Oliver Wyman or Roland Berger considered an upgrade or downgrade ? I don’t really feel the MBB, prefer the mid-size botique

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All else equal, I’d prefer to work at OW or RB than D. But as always, goals matter. Are you doing it for the work or the exit ops?

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OP - I feel ya on the “not so sharp” part.

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Not sure what market you’re in, but in the US RB would be more of the “boutique” experience compared to OW - although I’d say it’s more comparable to a startup environment. I chose it over an actual boutique bc you still have the resources/training that come with a bigger overseas presence. In the US though you’re definitely limited to certain industries but it’s pure strategy regardless

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What kind of training do you receive that you think you wouldn't have at a smaller boutique?

Don’t know much about OW. I love RB but the answer to your question depends heavily on your location, future target location and industry. RB is a tiny firm compared to Deloitte and in some places, it’s on par with/partially ahead of MBB while it’s virtually unknown in other places

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What exactly is it that you like about RB that you feel you wouldn't have at other firms?

You don’t need to feel the MBB because they aren’t. But that doesn’t mean they aren’t leaps and bounds above Deloitte.

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I’d consider it an upgrade, but I’m not sure they’re really boutiques (OW is part of publicly-traded Marsh and McLennan companies). Depending on why you want a boutique, you might actually get it from MBB. There’s not a lot of red tape around expenses and that sort of thing at MBB. It’s more do what you need to do and with policies a lot less rigid than the Big4, but with a global reach and great training and knowledge resources. Plus a name that opens doors. It may not have the “family” feel of some of the real boutiques, though two of the boutiques I’ve worked for have since been acquired by larger firms anyway.

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OW isn’t exactly easy to enter - to be successful you want a mix of strategy skills and deep SME expertise. There is more flexibility to “be yourself”, that people who transfer from other firms appreciate (but there aren’t that many who are able to get in). Exit opportunities are ok but not amazing- you are leveraging yourself, not the brand

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