Feeling defeated. I’ve been let go from two firms within 3 years. In the first instance, I was brand new and was told (without specifics) that I wasn’t a good fit and there were “performance issues.” Regarding the second, I was not meeting hours because I wasn’t receiving any work. Now I’m traumatized and not sure I can hack it. FWIW, and without sounding excusey, both supervising partners have been really awful and both places experienced very high turnover. Is it me? 😔

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No, it’s not you. The law firm industry is a universe of its own and law firms share strikingly similar patterns of toxicity and discrimination. It’s completely possible to experience the same issues at multiple firms.

Don’t let it affect your perception of yourself. Perhaps spend time doing things you excelled at and enjoyed before law school to remind yourself of your capabilities and innate good instincts. I hope you’re able to find a better work environment soon.

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This is amazing advice.

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I’m sorry to hear. Do not give up hope. Big law is pretty toxic and awful, and it is definitely possible that you were unlucky both times. I had a great experience at my first firm but lateralled to change my practice. My last two experiences have been awful for the same reasons you described. Bad fit and lack of work. I am happy I had a good first experience and know I am not the problem. There must be a match between the individual and the firm.

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I also wasn’t getting enough work and so scared to get fired, the partner just told me to go get my own client and target to bring in at least $100K next year(I’m at a 150ish lawyers firm, 5 year litigator.) Last year I exceeded the “target”, developed my own book of business, and never beg partners again for work and never anxious of getting fired.

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Were you in Biglaw? Are you Black? If so, I had the same problem. I had to fight for work, annoy people to get work. It’s a grind. I just want to know that I’m here with you and it’ll be okay.

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Sorry to hear that. I went through something similar at a boutique firm.

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Listen, I’ve been practicing 30 years and I’ve been there. My first job was a dud and I left after 2 years. You feel like a loser when that happens. Sure, you may need to take a look at your strengths and weaknesses but nothing can fix a bad work fit. There are things you enjoy and do well in the practice. You just need to find the place that fits you best. Don’t tie your worth to the so-called prestige of a biglaw position and don’t use money as your measure of happiness. Pick yourself up, remember what it took for you to get that degree and pass the bar, and get back out there. Eff that firm and go find yourself a better fit.

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I’m a partner at a V5. My entire career people have always had an opinion on things I should’ve done differently (when I’ve never asked them) and said I was impatient because I thought I deserved more than what I was getting. Some people just want to bring you down (whether unconscious or deliberate). It’s not 100% you. Take some time to reflect and see what you think you could have done differently. Some of this stuff might be in your control (or maybe not). Either way, brush yourself off and keep your head up. It will work out.

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Thank you all. I’m new to this bowl and so far the support I’ve seen here is refreshing. I feel seen and your words have helped me feel better today.

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Everything you’re describing is consistent with discriminatory patterns at law firms. I would advise consulting with 2-3 plaintiff-side employment lawyers who have experience representing women or women of color attorneys against law firms. They could shed light on whether you have a legal claim, can negotiate a settlement, and/or file a charge with the EEOC/state/city. The consultations are free.

Law firms have been given decades to change their behavior and women of color are still less than 3 % of equity partners and most are pushed out by year 6 at law firms. So if law firms won’t voluntarily change, external pressure is necessary for that change.

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Thoughts on pivoting in house or to a covenant role? Firm life isn’t for everyone. I really really struggled at my first two firms and I’m thriving in house.

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Ideally, yes. I’m glad to hear your new role is a much better fit for you. Law firms are so cutthroat, at least from what I’ve seen and read. SMH.

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Fix your resume and Go.In.House. The billable hours dance can be tough and shouldn't be somewhere you stay too long.

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