For anyone who has unlimited PTO, do you find it's actually a benefit? Or is it impossible to actually use it?

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I’ve read that people mostly never use it, and even use less then they would use normally due to peer pressure
I have unlimited PTO and use 4-5 weeks, not more

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Wild difference from our "6 weeks to 12 weeks"

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When I had that in my previous firm, I very consciously used to take two random days a month off (sometimes for no reason at all). That way I’m taking 24 days a year without raising too many eyebrows. And then once a year, typically around kid’s summer break, I used to take 2-3 weeks off.

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Immensely - those bonus two days off provided a much needed reset.

I’ve had it for 10 years and I regularly take ~6-7 weeks.. I could check the PTO I’ve logged but honestly I don’t even think twice about when I take it that I wouldn’t be able to give you an exact number without combing through records. It’s the best benefit I’ve ever had

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Yes, I would say most take it. It gets referenced in team meetings as a reminder, it’s auto approved in the system so no one can “deny” it, reports are shared and given to leaders of those who haven’t taken PTO so managers can encourage them to take more time and prevent/avoid burnout, it’s in onboarding docs to just document the time and send the notice to PMs for awareness and not approval, etc. it’s just very ingrained in the culture to just take the time without it ever being “a thing”.

When I had my job of 23 years in Los Angeles, I had 27 vacation days, 10 sick days, 2 personal days & 16 paid holidays. Geez those were the days. Darn reduction in workforce....

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I'd worked there 22 years. It was a fun job.

While "unlimited" PTO sounds like the ultimate workplace perk, it often creates ambiguity, eliminates payout upon leaving, and inadvertently encourages employees to take fewer days off due to an "always-on" corporate culture.

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That's the take I keep hearing. It sounds like it needs to be "Unlimited PTO and an office culture that allows employees to actually take it"

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A lot depends on the company and overall culture. The company I work for switched a few years ago and I feel most tske around the same as they did before.

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That makes a lot of sense- if it's already a cultural norm, people are probably hesitant to change

What jobs actually offer this?!

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Not always true, that’s not how it’s operated for me for the last ten years at least

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No! Unless there’s some major event requiring you to take time off. Otherwise it’s useless. I remember having four weeks vacation and never being able to use it all in any given year.

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I think it's a benefit for me but I'm also not a workaholic, and I work for a great company and have a great manager. I probably take 6-7 weeks a year.

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Thanks! I'm very lucky!

My wife is in that position and she utilizes those hours to the max. Unlike myself trying to squeeze to maximize 14days a year..

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I have a friend who makes itineraries for clients on maximizing PTO like that. It's super hard.

Such benefits are usually limited to Director or VP level. As a founder of an IT organization, I can trust only rop executives with such entitlement. Anyone below 15-18 years would not know to keep balance.

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That makes sense- limits offer protection all around.

Ive used it with no problem at all but I was always never really on vacation because I was always checking in and having calls... its there for you to use it, just make sure you, your money and the company doesn't suffer from you using it....

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The reality is that those PTO days still have to be approved and many companies say that your workload will be transfered away for the PTO that you use, but it usually is not. Companies realize that offering PTO does 2 things: Gets people in the door to work there for that benefit and most people that use it will mostly only use it randomly throughout the year and not take off full two or three weeks. If you hate your job, do two or three weeks unlimited PTO and see how one might be treated after you come back. It's a good excuse for people to get fired if using the PTO creates a backlog which it usually does. Especially if you are the sole person that handles your job, then they will tell you maybe other specific dates will work better.

My PTO is unlimited and automatically approved unless it’s over 2 weeks. So no, the reality is not that those PTO days still have to be approved.

Use it or basically lose it. I just cashed in 332 hrs of PTO I was unable to use and they tax it as "a gift" 40% right off the top! Use it

Wow. That's crazy.

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I used to take around 4 weeks off per year at a previous employer who offered it. About 2 weeks around the holidays and then two weeks throughout the year. It depends a lot on the culture of your team and your manager’s perspective on it. If your manager and teammates use it regularly, and if your team is in good standing with the company, then you’re golden. Otherwise it can be a hidden way to get employees to take less time off.

Keep in mind that it is not actually “unlimited” which is why most companies have switched to the term “flexible PTO”. I once heard a manager say that there was an “unwritten rule” that you shouldn’t take more than 3 weeks. That’s the thing that sucks about it, is that there are limits but companies won’t actually say what they are out loud.

It feels kind of like having a "Cool Mom."

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