Have a call post PIP with my manager and the PIP didn’t go well so I am not confident. There is no HR invited to the call. Can the manager fire me or will the HR show up last minute? This is a fortune 100 firm. I have day off today but the manager asked me to please join for 30 min saying it’s “work related question”

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Don’t join and go on leave.

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Let us all come together and pray that OPs selfish move did not hurt the pockets of this 40B$ F100 company 🙏.

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If it didn’t end well I’m surprised you got your leave approved

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Guessing HR could unexpectedly show up if they are planning to. However, how long in advance did you schedule this day off? You shouldn't be joining meetings on a day off - should have pushed back and said you will be unavailable (in an area with poor service if they really push you.)

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Are you the one who posted earlier this week asking if they should take Friday off to avoid this convo? If so, I think you need to get on the call today because it’s not like this was a pre scheduled vacation and it’s probably kind of obvious to the manager why you’re trying to avoid the call today

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I had filed for short term leave which is approved for Monday start

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How’d the call go?

Is your manager working in the office? Often the manager delivers bad news while HR is on speaker phone in the room.

Best of luck, OP. Know you are valued in this world beyond just the corporate job you have.

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Going leave has nothing to do with them firing you. They can fire you while you’re on leave.

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OP when does you leave end ?

If they want to fire you, they can feel free to do so when you get back from your leave. Enjoy the holiday on their dime. It is silly to expect you to join a call when you are off and HR can join unexpectedly after you are on the call. On the other hand, do you want to enjoy your holiday or spend the time speculating if you will get fired on your return? If you think you won’t be at rest mentally, just go for the call and get it over with.

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So what ended up happening?

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Just posted above

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You can get fired. You're an at-will employee, right? Maybe firing you right before leave is a problem, but do you have the budget and will for a long legal battle?

I'd take the day off and ask for email correspondence. If it is so critical, it is worth them sending an email.

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