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Thoughts is that they have a strong opinions. Neither of you is going to change the others opinion. Do what you think is right anf make sure your friends and family have the facts to make an appropriate decision. And I say the last part because regardless of people's opinion, your friend doesn't sound like someone who is sharing facts tbh.
mRNA vaccines have been around for years - Moderna was literally founded to research and produce these types of vaccines (hence the name). It’s kind of silly to say it’s “not traditional” when we have years and years of research on it
Where are you getting mRNA vaccines have been around for years? Research does not equal valid vaccines. These mRNA vaccines haven’t even fully completed the phase III clinical trials but were approved by many countries for emergency use authorization this year and was the first of its kind... also, can you point me to Modernas other successes? I’m not saying anything is wrong with the vaccine but to say ‘it’s silly’ is dismissing valid questions/desire to understand long term implications.
Chief
Why even entertain this?
Rising Star
Your friend is a gullible fool. Let them know how little you respect their opinion on this.
Get a new friend
Why are you friends with a conspiracy theorist? 🤔
You get COVID antibodies two ways, a vaccine that may take you out for a day and millions of people have it to confirm the side effects are minimal... Or... You contract COVID and fight it depending on your reaction to it, and you do this every so often because you don't get lifetime immunity.
Take a bridge or swim across.
SBA1 not factually 100% correct but here is an article that might be helpful.
Even though you might not have antibodies (protein created by the immune response created by white blood (T) cells), once the antibodies disappear, you will still have memory T cells that store information about previous pathogens (Covid/ Sars cov2) and will be in better prepared for initiating an immune response vs if it were a novel pathogen (no vaccine or previous exposure). The mRNA vaccine is essentially doing this so people can have a better immune response if they do catch a variant of the virus.
https://www.sciencemag.org/news/2020/05/t-cells-found-covid-19-patients-bode-well-long-term-immunity
Screenshot it and text it to them a year from now when you’re safe but they get covid
Listen.
People don't believe in conspiracies because they are convinced by the evidence or the data.
People are conspiracy theorists because they live in a big, complex world, with big, scary, complex problems. They look for simple answers that can explain why everything isn't so bad, it's just a few people at the top pulling the strings.
Can you honestly blame them? Economy keeps crashing but the rich keep making money. 10s of millions of people get laid off from Covid quarantines and yet billionaires keep making more and the stock market keeps going up. Even democratic politicians that preach equity and fairness join congress middle class and exit as millionaires. Super wealthy live in huge mansions, fly private planes, own yachts, but yet it's our fault for global warming and we need to cut back on gasoline and trucks. Big companies collapse the economy from risky real estate investments and get bailed out, yet common people lost their homes and got no relief.
Frankly, seeing all that going on, I'm not surprised millions of people are looking for a single, hopeful source of society's problems.
They're not off base to think something is seriously wrong. They are just seeking the simple source.
Rising Star
It’s not that hard to understand how the wealthy have gotten much wealthier and how politicians come out rich though. Get rid of citizens United and the political landscape would change.
Pro
The Johnson and Johnson vaccine is a traditional vaccine.
My wife signed up for Parlor and used my email address. Before it shut down. I was speechless.
Tell them you are getting the new 5G upgrade
What do they mean by traditional vax?
Pro
My guess is they mean it has microchips in it
Make the best decision for you and your family. It is a personal choice and you and your friends may not make the same decision. Unless your friend is a scientist or a physician I would suggest you do your research and decide what you would like to do.
I don’t get what the conspiracy is
Just send him this song https://open.spotify.com/track/6rWvSDfSYNal5mJSflFMU7?si=CH7x7WZ9RzmNHrZpIs9HaQ
Pro
Get new friends.
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