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This is a non issue if the work is getting done. Different story if it’s court or a meeting. Never arrive late for court, a deposition, or meeting. It’s about being respectful of others time.
It’s rude to be early. When a client shows up 15 minutes early, I may still be on a call, finishing a motion or eating my lunch. I feel compelled to short cut what I am doing so the person doesn’t wait. It’s a pet peeve of mine and rude. If you arrive for a dinner party 20 minutes early the host may still be setting up or just want a few minutes to decompress.
This must not be biglaw lol. Stuff like this is the reason I will rather go in-house than work in small law firms. I am at a V5 and stuff like this is a non-starter. Unless ofcourse you are late to a meeting, proceeding or stuff like that. Long as you do good work and turn it in on time and atleast come in before 11.00am most days, no one cares…
Is there a reason folks have to be in the office by a certain time every day (or at all)?
She is late exactly for what? Being at the desk? Courtroom? Meeting?
Yes it’s acceptable to be a few minutes late for work unless there’s a reason they need to be there
on time like a client meeting or something. As long as they’re doing good work, meeting target and deadlines I don’t see the problem at all. Not sure why this is such a big deal we’re all adults.
Lmfao. This is nuts. Late for what? A meeting or just to sit there?
Def just to sit there. This is a power trip
This is just one of many reasons why remote work was/is so popular! Unreal!
Wait, this is satire right?
If not, I assume this is not big law because there are no start times. I’d hate to work with a senior like you if you’re serious. I wouldn’t be surprised if juniors actively avoid you.
Set up a morning meeting with this associate, and see if she is late to that meeting.
If she is, then there’s a potential issue.
Even so, there could be something (eg adhd) that could explain this.
If not, and the work is being done and the hours billed, I think you need to go schedule an internal medicine appointment so that you can get that stick removed from your insides.
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You’re the reason people are quitting lol. Chill out.
Does she leave 5-10 minutes late?
Sometimes “pet peeves” entail a need for control and to impose how you would do something on others, as well as a lack of empathy if you haven’t tried discussing what’s going on or solutions. If she’s a different culture than you, maybe it’s worth considering what a need to control and a lack of empathy is rooted in.
Do you have a specific time that associates are expected to come in?
I think as an attorney to weird to have strict start times unless there’s a scheduled meeting…
Is she allowed to leave right at COB every day? Is she expected to work after COB if she has unfinished work? If working hours differ day to day based on workload, then it shouldn’t matter when the workday starts, as long as she is generally responsive and accessible during business hours. It would be different if she’s only expected to work between a certain start and end time each day and no more or less.
That’s not late on CP time lol and you are in the attorneys of color bowl 🤷🏽♀️ otherwise, I echo what others said
My friends keep telling me I'm being too harsh and that it is fine to be five to ten minutes late every day. That they are often at least five minutes late to work each day. It blows my mind! I feel like I fired all of them if they worked for me. So, is it acceptable for people to be a few minutes late each day or am I right to be upset?
@A11, doesn’t sound like biglaw…
OP, why would an attorney need to punch a clock?
Is the work getting done? If so, then 5-10 min tardiness should not be an issue.
If she’s getting her work done and doesn’t need to be in for meetings, etc, your attitude is the problem. She’s an adult, no need for roll call. Esp not for 5-10 minutes.
If it’s that she’s not in her office when you need her, tell her. If it’s you being a pedantic “back in my day,” get over it.
Obvious exception would be if the partners are talking about her and it’s actually hurting her career and not just your ego.
Brah. Please seek help. If you aren’t losing money and no one is getting hurt. Let it go. Shesh. Also, pretty sure you aren’t working a 9-5. So what’s the point. They probably started working before even arrive into the office and works after hours.