Should men extend chivalry/chivalrous courtesies to women in the workplace?

Do you as a male 🐠 perform these for your female colleagues? Female 🐠, do you expect your male colleagues to?

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All professionals should extend professional courtesies to all professionals...irrespective of gender.

If you hold the door for a lady, why would you let it slam on a guy?

Be an equal opportunity nice person

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Well said!

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General rules of etiquette that I live by in the workplace...
1. Hold doors for anyone if they’re within 15-20 feet.
2. If I’m closest to the elevator (either getting on or off) I’ll stick my arm out and hold the door for everyone to get on or off.
3. Never comment on anyone’s appearance (unless it’s something easily fixable like food in the teeth).
4. No compliments unless it’s about their work product.
5. Offer to walk a female coworker to her car if it’s late and we’re on friendly enough terms.
6. Handshakes only. Unless it’s a friend that I haven’t seen in a while and it’s understood that a hug is the way to go. Otherwise, nobody wants to be touched and squeezed by a colleague.
7. Finally, interact with EVERYONE as if my mom is watching or will hear what I said/wrote.

So I think it’s basically just keep your hands and thoughts to yourself and treat everyone like you would want your mom/sister/dad/significant other to be treated in the workplace.

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Re: luggage. Are you only asking women if they need assistance with their luggage? If so, ask yourself why? Why are you asking women if they need assistance with luggage?

I, as a woman, am quite capable in lifting, moving, and managing my own luggage. If there is nothing obvious that would give you the perception that I would need help (height of loading bin, hands full, broken arm, etc.) why else would you think I couldn’t manage my luggage except because I’m a woman.

Yes there are folks that help everyone- men and women alike. I try to keep that in mind when men offer to help.

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I’ve learned so much... apparently good manners (towards women) is sexist? Duly noted

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Not at all what the majority are saying - most of us say just treat us like equals, use good manners for all! I’m sorry you can’t see that and/or feel the need to make a flip comment as a joke

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Expect? no
greatly appreciate and note those that do exhibit chivalry toward me, other women, children and the elderly!!

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Yes, then again I do the same. Being from a small country town it’s just called being nice.... I don’t “expect” it, I just feel it’s the nice thing to do.

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Treat everyone as equals in the workplace and everyone goes home without a harassment or discrimination suit

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There was an incident where some lady offered to sit in the back of a 7 seater SUV uber (there were 4 of us). My other colleagues and me (all men) sat in the front/middle. After the ride, she called us out for no offering up our seats for her and that we were male chauvinists... smh. My suggestion honestly is be careful.

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As a female I always appreciate having the door held open for me, but that’s not to say that I don’t do the same for my male colleagues if I’m the first one to the door. I’ll hold the door open for anyone, especially if their hands are full !

In a personal setting, I love it when my family or SO open my car door. My dad has been relentlessly doing that for my mom and me for the past 30 years. It’s a sweet, simple gesture that is never neglected . Just makes me feel like he’s always watching out for his girls (and he trains my boyfriends to do the same for me)

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I read an interesting piece, headline was “In the #MeToo era, 60% of male managers say they’re scared of being alone with women at work”

I sometimes question whether being sensitive to these things is bringing about true progress or instilling fear

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I would say, you should treat your colleague the same way you treat others.
The female colleague will let you know what is appropriate what is not. Each person is different.

My manager will always demonstrate courtesy toward women in general. Some of the younger guys pick that trait up and do the same.
I normally tell them while I enjoy some courtesy, I would prefer otherwise on others.
It’s always nice to show courtesy toward other people, man or woman. Also be respectful of what others define their comfort zone.

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Let’s first make sure at workplace we respect each other’s basic needs as human and don’t burn other 🐠🐠🐠 especially the more junior ones out regardless of identity group. Then we can talk about these minor complimentary actions.

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I would like it but I don’t expect it!

Biologically speaking, men are _generally_ stronger then women and the expectation seems to be that men get the dubious honor of getting to change out the 5-gallon water jugs because of this. That’s the only gender-based courtesy I see in the workplace- and let’s face it, regardless of gender, who wouldn’t feel like an ass sitting there watching a 4’11” 98-lb colleague try and lift that jug up there?

yes. Let's take a step back and talk about it instead of a man/woman thing and talk about a cultural thing.

If you do something trying to show respect to someone then why shouldn't you do that? For example, if someone held their business card in both hands to show respect when handing it to you, would you think twice?

You might think I'm simple, but my life isn't so empty to think more than you're trying to show me respect, great!

Lmao this post is a clown fest, can’t have chivalry and feminism my dear.

I, as a woman expect nothing but manners, from everyone, for everyone. In the same way I would extend them! As if women expect it from a chivalrous point of view...! 🙄

I’m pretty sure at this point “chivalry” could be re-defined as old-fashioned or southern US mannerisms by men towards women.

Always.

Yes.

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