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Hi guys ,
I am in a US project in Accenture.We have long calls in the night timings. My other teammate has backed out saying she won't attend any calls as she got some medical condition so she won't attend long calls which extend till 9:30.Other teammate is a junior.The managers are expecting me to join all the calls.No help I am getting. And they all being Tamil, I think some partiality is going on between them.Even our onsite lead is of no use.She expects me to attend long calls.
What should I do .pls suggest?
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Wondering out loud.
For those of us who stood up for ourselves.
How many left because being forced to do it ourselves made clear the firm was not a place to stay long term?
How many stayed as a newly minted person important enough to dress down a partner and stay employed?
How many were asked to leave?
Chief
Was not a place I wanted to stay long term.
Chief
Senior partner. Door open. Shared a wall with the office managing partner.
I got a slow clap on the way back to my office.
Did a lot less work for that 🤡 moving forwards.
No one ever said anything.
Big Law. 5th year.
My hero!
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Yea a partner was talking to me like a fucking asshole. I said very calmly “you don’t need to talk to me like that, I’m actually trying to help you and that tone doesn’t help anybody.” He ignored me and then shoved the papers we were reviewing at me with instructions on what to do next. A few minutes later he complimented my outfit.
Obviously his marriage is a mess if that’s his way of apologizing.
Hahaha it’s a male apology.
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I didn’t. I just swallowed it for 1.5 years and left. A younger partner told me his story on my way out. He stood up for himself every time the other partner was yelling at him or treating him unfairly. He earned the respect. I just couldn’t do it.
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you are definitely not expected to put up with that abuse. you made the right choice to leave. no one should be routinely abused. there is no prize in taking abuse day in and day out.
Yup. They’re not gods. The conversation isn’t always easy. One of my partners is physically annoyed when I do. The other says thank you for communicating. Either way, no one is allowed to treat or talk to me like garbage. I will find another job in a heartbeat.
I did and then quit. I’ve never looked back and have zero regrets about standing up for myself.
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yes, i did it on my way out the door-- but of course I said it diplomatically
Example would be: Senior partner (who I share an office with) has headphones in watching some (non-work related) video - I have to interrupt as he asked for me to have a draft ready. I try ask the question and get a response along the lines “of course it’s an entirely new x being brought into the agreement it’s not the same as the existing one at all” - like I am stupid.
I submit draft. Partner is angry because I created a new x when it’s suppose to be a replica of an existing clause and in a very angry tone asks me why I have spent all this time doing the wrong thing when this was meant to be a basic 2 hour job and now I am wasting time.
Just one example yesterday. This morning was an angry 8am email about a doc not being checked in once again and how I need to stop this. The doc was not checked out by me.
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Sorry OP. That’s terrible and awkward. I can’t imagine sharing an office with a partner, especially a jackass one. I wonder if your partner has bipolar. His behavior is super strange.
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I worked in government but my boss would call me sweetie and said she had a kid around my age. I'm a 28 year old male. The first day she screamed me out. I spent the next year of employment looking for something else
Can you give an example of this trash treatment?
Her face would get dark and stormy (like, as in, scary) and she’d say stuff like that at any other place I would be fired (maybe?), and I wasn’t cut out to work at a big firm. (Her firm was small - her, me, sometimes another associate and a couple paralegals. She came from BL before starting her firm). I retorted back that I wasn’t being paid as if I were at a big firm, and if she expected to treat me the same, she should pay the same. Granted, this was over the span of a couple months, at the very end which was the culmination of over 3 years of abuse.
Finally, the breaking point came when I made a typographical error, and the client was upset. I fixed it - no material error, all good. Positive outcome on matter. One of the employees of the client was so pleased with the outcome in the end that they sent me FLOWERS with a lovely thank you note.
So, my boss calls a meeting with everyone, says that I made a huge error and that if we lose client, I will be fired.
After the meeting I asked to speak with her. I told her the way she behaved was completely unprofessional - you do not reprimand your employees in front of others. You also do not throw a hissy fit over a big nothing - and I pointed at the flowers and told her those were from the client. I left for the day.
First thing in the morning the next day, I resigned. I put in a short notice period to wrap up affairs.
On my last day she was still crying and begging me to stay and saying she’d make me partner, and I’d never make it at another firm, blah blah.
My friend was an associate there and told me the place essentially broke down over a year after my departure. My boss found out I had gotten a job at one of the big 4 L&E firms. She told my friend I’d never make it. I’m extremely professionally fulfilled here, and I’m up for partner next year, with full support of my practice group leaders.
Lol this is what led to my downfall. At first, i was stared at blankly and told to leave. Partner talked major shit before i even confronted him and of course after. He never once acknowledged me after this incident, never invited me to meetings that i was involved in. He has a huge ego and no associate likes him.
*raises hand*
as several of the posts here suggest, after the first such incident the countdown until you depart begins
My countdown began about 4 months ago.
SOMETIMES I think maybe all of us can be less than pleasant if we are stressed/upset or whatever. If someone were to point out when I’m being a jerk, I would soften immediately and apologize because it probably wasn’t about them at all. So maybe, just maybe calling out the behavior can be helpful.
I’m not saying I haven’t. Just adding this context for those situations in case it were to help.
Two stories from my firm:
1. Partner was yelling at first year, first year yelled back. First year left at the end of the year, unclear if they were asked to leave or not.
2. Senior partner did not respect midlevel's PTO during a family emergency. Unclear what the midlevel said to the senior partner, but midlevel claims he took himself off the matter. Senior partner claims she kicked midlevel off the matter. Other partners got mad at senior partner for being a dick while midlevel had a family emergency. Midlevel was essentially blackballed by senior partner and senior partner's entire fiefdom, midlevel left a year after that incident.