Anyone else’s firm not give billable credit for trainings? For context, we’re being required to do 3 full days of training with a 1950 billable goal as mid levels. Seems unreasonable to me, but can’t think of a polite way to say “hard pass”.

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That's rough. We get billable credit for some tech training. I think it's capped at 25 hours.

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Do the training, if you’re a litigator and it’s like NITA it should be excellent. Long term investment in yourself and professional development.

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Mine doesn’t and I had to do a lot of training when I lateraled. Recently getting emails strongly encouraging me to attend the same training again cause it’s in person. Absolutely not doing it.

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Word, I think you have solid reasoning there.

Mine doesn’t give billable credit and this year I have a weeklong in-person training and a separate 4 day long training. Joy.

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My firm won’t even give billable hour credit for training to use the clients internal systems. Looking to lateral this year.

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We may be talking about the same firm, but mine (before I went in house) did not give billable credit for those training sessions. They weren’t often though, I think I was supposed to go to 2 on the span of 8+ years - one as a mid level and another as a senior. I missed one because I was doing international depositions that week, but attended the other.

While losing the billable time wasn’t fun, the training was well done. My partner and I didn’t take it too seriously (ie, maybe skimmed the materials on the plane, sort of prepped the night before) but others certainly did. It was also a good opportunity to make connections across offices.

Unless you had a legitimate work conflict (deposition, hearing, closing that was actually going to happen), it wasn’t a good look if you skipped or refused to go.

For reference my prior firm had similar offsite training and it wasn’t billable either.

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You can try not going, but just expect that it’ll be remembered and may bite you later on. The more senior you get, the more non-billable expectations. The market won’t stay like this forever.

Also, if it’s NITA training it’ll be well done and a good professional development experience. Have you never attended a multi-day conference? Most jobs require some amount of travel and being away from family, to me this just doesn’t seem like that huge of an ask.

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Ours doesn't give any credit for day to day trainings but we have mandatory trainings (onboarding orientation, then 2 full days as a midlevel (around year 3-4) and 2 or 3 full days as a senior associate (around year 6-7)) which we do get firm credit for.

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We get up to 20 billable hours for trainings. That’s brutal.

I would appreciate any billable credit for this, even if it’s half-credit 😒

Normal to not get credit and you should go.

Can you just skip it and say you did it? I do this all the time and work on the side. I work WFH though.

If it’s in person and something like NITA that’s not an option. It’ll be a skills based onsite, interactive mock trial/deposition/closing type training. Plus, integrity?

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