How do people with kids get their billables in?! I need to be billing about 7 hrs/day on average, but by the time I get kids dropped off and ready for work, then the whole evening routine, a smidge of quality family time, and all the other family/house things. I'm drowning in it AND not getting the hours in I need! My husband is a an equal helper/partner but he's in the same boat as me. Ugh.
(3 kids, 6 years and under)

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I dont. :(. Feels impossible. My mental and physical health are slipping.

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Same 😫

When I had four kids all under age 10, I did not. The firm held itself out as family friendly, so I made the firm prove it to accommodate reality.

The struggle is REAL. Family first. Work to live, do not live to work. And make certain you have a framed family photo within sight of your computer screen(s) so you remember why you are practicing law. Good luck

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I personally wasn’t able to do it with two school age kids because I wanted to also spend a lot of time with them. Working on the weekends like they are work days, reducing sleep, etc only worked for a little bit and eventually I just had to go to a reduced schedule because I wasn’t willing to give up on my family time by hiring an after hours nanny or outsourcing pick ups and drop offs, and missing their events (sports, school).

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Get 1 billable hour in before family wakes up and make up any lost billable time after they go to sleep. Also billing a few hours in the early mornings on weekends help. I’m exhausted and am still struggling, but if I can maintain the stamina to keep this schedule, it works. I don’t usually do drop offs (but I do help get kids ready before school) or pickups, but I also don’t miss events. Just know you are not alone in this struggle and it can feel impossible.

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We get an early start, hang out as a family from like 5-7:30ish and then I bill another hour or so when my son goes to sleep. I usually try to get a minimum of 4ish hours of work in on weekends to make up time. I take very few breaks in the day. Lately I’ve been trying to make the act of making dinner a real family event so I feel like I’m building quality family time into something that has to get done anyway. And our weekend mornings are sacred family time. But I don’t know how I’ll continue to juggle once kids are school aged and have activities going on. If it helps to here, I know a lot of women partners at my firm who were on reduced hours when they had young kids.

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Reduced schedule (80 percent) + babysitter for a few hours on one weekend day so my SO can get things done too while I work. It’s still very hard and everything other than work and kids falls by the wayside

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Gotta get 3 hours in after kids go to bed. And hire help with everything else.

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Yeah, the struggle is real. My billable is 8-8.5 hour per day. I need to bill after my kids sleep and work weekends (after taking my kids to their activities, I’m exhausted). I couldn’t give up my family time so I gave up my personal time as well as work out time. I also have to outsource a lot like cleaning and order meals. I try to get involved in my kids’ schools like festivals and auctions and field trips. That is when I really want to quit my job and look for non billing work.

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I figured I'll sleep when I'm dead

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It’s impossible. Don’t even try. If they fire you thank them and move on to a more sustainable environment

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My basic weekday schedule with two under 5 and a busy SO

5:30 - 6:30 am - Gym
6:30-7:45am - Wakeup/Pack for Daycare
7:45-8:45am - Daycare Drop off/Commute
8:45am - 12:15pm - billable 3.5ish
12:15pm - 12:45 lunch (normally shorter and I eat at my desk)
12:45pm-4:45pm - billable 4 hours
4:45-5:15 - commute home
5:15-7pm dinner, kid time, bed time.
7-8pm - SO time
8pm -9:30pm - Me time.

So 7.5 hours of billables.

"Me Time" can get flexed for extra billables/fires -

I don't mind working during naps or evenings after bed time on the weekend to make up any deficit.

Chores, household stuff, etc are all done on a continuous basis during all the other things. (i.e. I'm reading books to girls, SO is doing laundry, SO is getting jammies on, I am doing dishes, etc) and big projects saved for weekends.

If I WFH I get an extra hour + that I can either bill or do otherwise.

I also don't go to the gym everyday, but still get up at the same time, so have an hour 2-3 days a week there while everyone is asleep to do anything I need to or extra me time! (I LOVE an hour of quiet in the morning).

But generally I have ~7.5 hours a day to bill.

I wouldn't be able to if my husband wasn't a SAHD. I also had to learn early on the art of billing 2 extra hours before bed during the week after everyone is fed and home from activities.

I generally work 2-3 hours after everyone goes to bed on those days when I don’t hit my billable target during the work day. Makes for long days and shorter sleep, but I’m home with my kids and wife for dinner and quality time with them.

I leave my computer at the office during the week. My brain turns off when I leave the office .. available for emergency only

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