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Insurance Defense Associates: Why not unionize? A lot of people are complaining about very low salaries and high billable requirements. This is a product of low rates and stringent billing requirements imposed by insurance carriers. Unionization at a few large shops like Wilson Elser and Lewis Brisbois can single-handedly turn the entire ID industry around. A rising tide lifts all boats.

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Too busy billing. Give them an iPad and a fake lemon garden!

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This is a good idea.

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And then what? Collectively bargain? There are 10000000000 more attorneys they can just hire.

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A lot of them exploit new grads and underemployed recent law grads enough to make a decent margin and get more cases. It would have to be on a firm by firm basis. It starts with more associates standing up for their salaries and quality of life, and more partners willing to tell the insurance company to pay bills or they won’t do business with them anymore. Unfortunately many small ID shops exist with only one State Farm or Allstate type company, so if they lose that, the business is done. It’s a bummer.

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This is a great idea. Also, if the firm tries to fire you for trying to form a union they are violating federal law.

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Well if they did fire you "coincidentally", easy severance package.

100% lawyers should unionize. Guess what - pretty much everyone should unionize. I’m pumped for a union resurgence. I’m at a union busting firm, hahaha.

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You could just come join the light (plaintiffs) side...

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What an interesting thread. I know that legal aid lawyers in NY have been unionized, but I’ve never heard of it in private law firms—other than staff attorneys. I guess the thing would be are you in a “supervisory” or “managerial” role precluding unionization. Or are you an independent contractor? Interesting concept though!

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It would probably run afoul of Goldfarb v. Virginia State Bar.

That case was about a trade association setting a price floor through documented, published, recommended fee arrangements. Other trade associations (like architecture) were similarly burned in the 70s and 80s for setting price floors. Employees, on the other hand, have a right to unionize and collectively bargain for higher wages and other concessions.

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Padding my billable hours like

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