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I guess it's sort of a function of how a lot of work places are majority white. If a team has one black person and the other four are white it would be the easiest way to describe someone.
If there was only one white person it would be natural to describe them as so.
D1 exactly. This is America where statistically the majority of the population are white. If you went to India, and we're working on a team there, it would likely be quite common to say "the white guy sitting next to Rajiv". Come on people, we've really gotta loosen up around here.
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Well D11, in your example, Joe could easily have been wearing something unique like Khakis, jeans, black pants, brown pants, sneakers, loafers, boots, wearing a cap, wearing glasses etc... not saying it's an easy option but better one than race...
If it makes the convo easier, yes. Coming from the Asian typing in fishbowl
Easy visual cues are best, as long as not inherently offensive. If there's something equally or more obvious than race (e.g. the really tall guy, the guy whose desk is right under that ugly painting, the woman with short spiky hair), have at it. But don't beat around the bush because you can't bring yourself to say a race or nationality.
The differentiator thing I kinda get since apparently people's names are that hard to come by. The thing that I think is kinda odd is how we use the names of crayola colors to describe people when backgrounds are so much more informative. Asian, Indian, Hispanic all describe a culture. Yet the two "races" with the most "racism" related issues refer to other as a crayola colors
It's simple. If you can only differentiate someone by their race, then you are not very observant. C'mon people, even if you just left a meeting full of people you never met before, you should have been paying enough attention to remember something other than an attendee's race. Ideally, refer to something substantive, like 'the woman who made the point about xyz'. If you can't , consider these less substantive observations: 'the gentleman sitting next to me', 'the guy in the blue suit', 'the lady taking copious notes'. I also avoid defining people by age. I don't want to be the 'older, white lady', and I would never refer to a young person as 'the Asian kid about the age of my daughter'. Humans are > a simple dimension or two.
@OP I would and have said "you know Joe, the skinny white dude with the glasses", though if you didn't use race for everyone probably shouldn't use it for anyone. Also if you don't know the person well external descriptors are your only option, using whatever the most unique characteristic saves time, sometimes that's race others it's the fact they wear a bolo tie
A10, that sounds like common sense and something that would work in the real world.
I find minorities do it all the time, but get really upset when white folks do it.
The library of congress data says that the Hispanic population is estimated at 15.1%. If we reduce the current percentage of white by that amount, you're at about 65%. Anyway, carry on...
BCG2 I've rolled my eyes at white people who say "Jane the Asian girl" and then when I say "Becky the white girl" they say "woah woah why do you have to bring race into everything!!!"
From this thread it seems like only white people are actually worried about this.
I'm fine with being the white guy over there. Other people can be the ❄️ being offended by people who are trying to handle normal everyday situations in this fun world we live in.
Using race as a descriptor is a slippery slope. Pretty soon you will be saying "you know Julie, the girl with large breasts, who sits next to bob?"
Actually I would say Julie is the short white blonde woman who sits next to bob
If you're white, no.
I personally don't have a problem with it but things like this seem to offend a lot of people. If someone referred to me as the guy from New York it wouldn't bother me, I don't understand why hearing "the Chinese guy" would bother someone... but it might.
It seems silly to avoid abclarifying descriptor. I'm pretty progressive, but let's not overdo it.
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Something like 80% of people in the US are white, so skin colour is enough of a differentiator to be a useful descriptor to identify people. If it's used in neutral, non-judgemental way, there should be no issue. I've done it before and Americans have been scandalized tho. Seems like a very US-specific over-sensitivity.