Is there a reason people always say they’re traveling when they send ooo messages instead of saying they’re on vacation? Feels like it’s almost taboo to call it vacation.

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“Thanks!”

Just say you’re out of office and when you’re returning…”I’m out of office and returning date, thus my response may be delayed. Please reach out to another team member if immediate assistance is needed.” I don’t even leave my cell anymore.

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Usually because, for all intents and purposes, they are just working from somewhere else. Lol. The last time I took an *actual* vacation where I was not checking work emails at all, for a sustained period of time, was about . . . 3-4 years ago? 🤷🏻‍♀️ Otherwise it's been long weekends here or there and I'm usually checking emails at least a handful of times a day. Sometimes I don't even put my OOTO on in those instances.

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You can absolutely take a true vacation where you don’t open your laptop and work, but you probably should still check your email on your phone a couple times a day so you can quickly handle if the client asks you a question directly (forward to someone) or your team has a question they need your input on (where did you leave x). But this should still give you a real break.

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Those people are working on their vacation. They just aren’t available while they’re traveling to get there.

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Traveling sounds unavailable - on a plane, no WiFi, ask someone else.
Vacationing sounds available - laying by the pool, nothing to do, give me a call!

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There’s nothing gained by offering such details to anyone who has a copy of your email address…

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