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Looking to move to Boston: Arnold, Mullen, Hill Holiday... Where should I look, and where should I avoid like the plague?

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Mullen is an unorganized mess, but you can get good stuff made if the stars align and Wenneker isn't involved. Arnold is doing decent work, but nobody there seems happy. Hill is in a reboot, unfortunately the people that ran it into the ground are still in charge so it probably won't work.

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Boston is now officially terrible for great work. LA is the place to be for good work. Mullen is the cool kids table but Dave, tim, jon ruby and dustin all being great people and great talents. Hill is hiring for a new ECD under lance and they only want creative masturbators. Arnold will be impossible to get into if you’re not a Brazilian wunderkind. Icaro is amazing but good luck. They shrunk from 1000 people to 300 in the past 10 years. Digitas is the biggest joke on the planet. Not even worth acknowledging Sleek machine is small and good but tim directs almost everything and your book will be padded but with small beans social content stuff. MMB is run by good dudes but is a subway and bruins shop who cares only about TV. BEAM is a digital bleep bloop place. In house places are terrible - liberty mutual, Fidelity, wayfair, etc. Your book will die here. Sapient is even more of a joke than Digitas. Pass. Sleek is your best chance at non-terrible work

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CD2- why, in your opinion, is Digitas “the biggest joke on the planet?” Seems a bit harsh. Have you worked here? Most people here in Boston are decent enough not to throw other agencies completely under the bus. Everyone is trying for fuck’s sake.

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Tons of small shops. Plenty of places for a copywriter. Go small/mid or in house. Everyone at the big 3 is miserable.

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You can definitely get 65

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I spent 6 months at Arnold and I can tell you it was the most miserable time of my career. Got really depressed and decided to quit without a job lined up in the end. Best decision ever! My senior AD at that time came from Mullen, and he told me Arnold was better already... 😥

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Oh mannnn 😬

Digitas has made some great changes in the past year and a half or so... Creative is pushing, Strategy is stronger, and media and analytics were always their strength.

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There are plenty of other agencies, before you write off a whole city based on 3 out of 50 agencies you heard of.

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Got any recommendations?

All three are miserable. Hill and Arnold are shrinking and I heard Mullen is a nightmare🤷🏻‍♀️ other than that, it is a bunch of small agencies. I’d go in house

Don’t go to Wayfair! I did and it was a mistake. Unless you want to write mindless furniture puns for emails and banners. There’s no campaign work for creatives. But it’s easy if you want to leave at 5 every day

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What about Allen & Gerritsen, does anyone have the scoop on them?

A&G is great for women. Creative is balanced (male/female) and there’s women in creative senior leadership.

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