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I'm a person of color. I'm okay with POC. I am not okay with colored people or minority.
☝️ exactly what a bigot would say, I’ve heard
CD2, your unconscious bias is showing.
“I don’t see color” is just as bad as saying “I have a Black friend”
CD 2: The criteria you’ve listed above do matter. My color matters because I’ve been discounted and discredited my whole life because your counterparts haven’t given me the same opportunities, education, or help that my white peers have gotten. Therefore the opportunities to gain these abilities you speak of have been systematically blocked from me.
You should judge based on those things because thay POC that may not be that impressive on paper could be your next rockstar if you give them the right tools and opportunity. That’s all some of us need.
@CD1 - for whatever reason it’s not insensitive as people of color but colored people is. I think because it puts personhood before color. I’m not a fan of either terms as a “person of color”. White people turn red when they are embarrassed and green when they are sick. They seem to be more colorful than the rest of us.
I don’t like any of these dumb labels. I’m a human. The whole diversity thing is a joke to me. Just hire the best person for the job. I don’t care if they are black, trans, in a wheelchair or all three.
Isn’t a bigot someone who discriminates based on skin color/gender/race/religion?
What I just said was - I don’t judge people based on those things. I judge people based on how valuable their skills are and how likable their personality is.
Neither of those two criteria have anything to do with race/gender/ability.
It’s actually the least bigoted way of looking at a hire - but sure - accuse me of being a bigot.
Unfortunately, unless you are a POC, you simply will never understand it, especially in advertising.
My agency hires the best, but the office is 75% white. It’s a tough place to feel comfortable because you are already different than everyone else. You already are working from a different perspective and conscious of your actions to make sure you don’t single yourself out even more. Every day we feel this. Every day we consider it.
To OP’s point, that’s a terrible thing to hear. But I wish there were more POC in each office to help everyone feel welcome
However OP, have you ever heard someone claim POC are “affordable” ... ??!! Please tell me, no.
@CD2 I totally agree with you. But it's an unpopular opinion nowadays because everyone's so pc 🙄
Yes, this has been directly quoted to me multiple times and the people who say it think it is almost like a selling point. Happened again today and made me frustrated so I wanted to post.
@CD3 I’m not saying I don’t see color - it just doesn’t factor into my decision making.
As a “person of color” I want to know I got the job because of my personality and skills not because I check a goddamn diversity box. That makes me feel more like an “other”.
Hiring because of color as a factor - bad.
Not hiring because of color as a factor - bad.
@SeniorProducer1 apparently we are both bigots with unconscious bias for thinking that way.
I am poc and female n NYC and i earned salary on higher end of my title. How do I know this? because I do research and not afraid to ask above their salary range expectation. On another note, I think its important to have diversity especially in creative/strategy/ account team when you are working for huge global brand. I encountered so many ecds have no clue about other culture. I can't imagine if my team has no diversity. It will probably go down like the Pepsi ads w/ Kendal or loosing a huge account or even worse
Breaks my heart that you’ve heard this. And more than once. I would love those quoted to be reported and documented. Ugh.
I’m a human with more pigmentation and with 14 plus year experience, trust me, I’m not cheap :)
And I for one hate labels. I will physically and intentionally cringe if anyone ever refers to me as a poc or an AA to my face, and hope they get the message based on my response. Don’t try to put me in a box.
Yes, Asians are considered people of color.
Serious question, is POC considered racist or insensitive? I see it used often but would never say colored people, which doesn’t seem much different? Would a white person saying people of color come off as ignorant?
Don’t ever say “colored people”