Thinking of moving from government to big law. Any advice, thoughts, etc? I’m worried about the billables and my mental health.

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Ya. Don’t.

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I moved from a small firm to biglaw, and it was a great choice for me. Flexibility is key. Being able to wfh when I am really busy makes the hours bearable. Avoid any policies requiring a certain number of in office days like the plague. Sometimes you may be buried under a project for weeks that does not require you to be in the office and going to the office because of some policy will only be counterproductive.

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Agree with this completely. Required in office days is a textbook red flag for micro managers and no one succeeds in that environment for long.

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Midsize, small boutique? As someone only working at an AmLaw “Big Law” I can not fathom why people voluntarily choose to stay long term in these firms or to join them. I’ll be gone by the new year. Person to person thing I guess.

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You are not alone. It’s an awful lifestyle and to be honest if you actually do the math on how many hours you work vs our “large salaries” we make a lot less per hour than you think.

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If you can land a job at a boutique or mid sized firm, do that. You give up a little pay but it’s worth it.

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I’ve done a V10 and I’ve done midsized. Midsized was by far better. But ymmv

You are right to be worried. It does seem to work for some people, but I think they are either always-on type A workaholics or else in love with the checks and the fancy things they can buy. If you’re the kind of person who likes a lot of quiet downtime to yourself not doing anything in particular, and/or you don’t “need” that much money, I would strongly advise against it. Alternatively, go, collect one of these insane signing bonuses, avoid lifestyle creep, and inflate your bank account for 2 years before retreating back to sanity.

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That’s my plan. 1-2 years and then out.

I work on opportunities in biglaw to work flexible hours (p/t or f/t and no billable req). Feel free to shoot me a message to talk more.

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Not all big law is toxic. And nothing can compare to the money.

There are so many other jobs that make more per hour. Yah the “salary” is “nice” but when you do the math you’re making crap money per hour.

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ALSO!!!! If you leave gov don’t you lose your 10 year student loan discharge? Or is that even a factor? I honestly wish I had gone into government right away. I’d be 4/10s the way to no more student loans already.

That is awesome congrats!!

What do you do in gov and what would you be doing in biglaw? Hard to give advice without that info.

Interesting - maybe makes sense then. I started in gov doing investigations-like work and now am in biglaw doing mostly the same.

The benefits of biglaw are $$$ in first place and, in distant second, the street cred it appears to give you in the legal industry relative to a government lifer. I was hoping that training and super high standards would be benefits too, but have been mostly disappointed there. Training is alright but the lack of ownership and stifling hierarchy in biglaw makes me feel like my development slowed wayyyy down once I got here. And standards are higher in terms of perfecting the details, ie cite checks and no comma out of place (something there’s not usually time/will/manpower to do in gov), but I don’t think my colleagues here are any more brilliant at legal thinking or strategy than in public sector. I FAR preferred my day-to-day in gov, and don’t think the money makes up for that. If I did it over again, I probably would not have left when I did.

But it can definitely be worth it depending on what you’re leaving, where you’re going, and what you hope to get out of it. My one piece of generic advice would be to have a plan for what that is - whether $$, a stepping stone, etc, and execute. It’ll be pretty hard to think big picture thoughts once the crush of work really sets in.

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OP you're not alone! Have the exact same thoughts and fears. May I ask what's prompting you toward the move?

Partly boredom. Partly want a new challenge. And partly they are aggressively trying to hire me. And money. Lots of big life moves coming up.

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