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good try BBDO.. but no. WFH is here to stay. 🙃

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He’s not wrong. Things take longer remotely, the bar for work is lower, that sometimes means employees end up working later.  But LinkedIn is not the audience for this post. Other executives are. Overall, working in the office is not better for employees. You’re just not going to convince them of that. And you’re definitely not going to convince them that the office promotes “boundaries” when employers obliterated boundaries as soon as we all got cell phones. It helps them form a bond with the company and their bosses, you could say that. It helps people who can schmooze climb the corporate ladder. But overall, it’s harder on them. Which is why employers favor it. So the ball is in employee’s court. They have a little bit of power and know that employers aren’t looking out for them or their personal lives. Whether companies go FT or hybrid will ultimately depend on whether their are talented employees willing to do it. But you will never convince employees they’re happier in the office.

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First, objectively I've been more creative away from the office. However, I also noticed I don't have close relationships since I'm in my headphones for most of the day so I don't bounce ideas off others like those who do. I did notice it's something I should work on being away from people this long, but posts like this aren't truly focusing on nuances. I'm not necessarily wrong for coming up with ideas alone for most of the time, but maybe we should be better about including others who work differently 🤔. So, yes we need to be in the office to develop some relationships and invest in the surrounding economy but, by no means we are lacking creativity. It's nice to have moments where I'm not commuting used for taking a walk and recording a memo which gets transcribed to notes to share with my team on a call. I also don't play foosball.

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@ACD2 - I know a really creative team that won loads of awards at Cannes. So creative, in fact, they were imaginary campaigns. And some were imaginary clients of that office.

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The phrase “Managers have more control” gives me the actual creeps.

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He’s a vertical storyteller

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Not a very persuasive argument, good thing he doesn’t try to convince people to buy stuff for a living.

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👏👏👏

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No one used the foosball table before. Why would they now?

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Exactly what happened. 20 mins a day we’d play. Only ones. Gone after one week.

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My “”vertical message” for this “vertical storyteller”: 🖕

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“Vertical Storyteller?”

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Trust me, you don’t want this guy telling you horizontal stories.

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Informal communication is also known as chit chat. That’s the enemy of productivity in my opinion. And teams can always meet in office if they need to brainstorm or hunker down, without having to be there every day potentially getting sick or being derailed by less-busy coworkers.

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Isn’t this the guy that constantly posts old fake print ads as examples of creative brilliance?

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Yes. Yes it is…

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Give your foosball table to some frat boys. Can we go home now?

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Nobody cares about foosball tables, this isn’t 2008

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This is why I prefer to work with horizontal storytellers.

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If you cant plank and tell stories at the same time in this industry you're dead to me.

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We all know #2 is the reason they want us back.

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And justifying rent

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As a manager who does believe some in-person days will make us better-- especially on pitches, onboarding and growing new people etc-- arguments from "leaders" like this only pour gas on the (often accurate) perception that senior people are out of touch and not listening to real concerns people have. The better model would be to accept there will be no one size fits all solution; good leaders who care about their people will work with them to see what ideal hybrid models look like -- whether that's by client, by team, or whatever makes most sense for your org. Fighting for the past to return (Foosball? Really, son?) is entirely unhelpful and will lead to even further talent exodus. People like this guy make it harder for the rest of us to make meaningful progress on what future models could be in our agencies.

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They removed our foosball table because it was too loud for the boss lol

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In my opinion there is literally zero need to return to the office. WFH has been HUGE for ppl with lives outside of work and it really is a win - win situation. Company gets more working hours out of us and the employee gets more of their life back. To counter each of his arguments: 1. We are not children and therefore do not need our managers breathing down our necks to make sure we are working. As long as the job gets done 2. The employee not being chained to a desk in an office building has done wonders to work/life balance in an industry where most ppl until now had none 3. You can keep your foosball table.

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Uh, my work/life balance and separation is much better now than it was when I had to go to the office every day. YMMV.

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If WFH didn’t work, freelance wouldn’t be a thing for so long. They know it works, but they also know it hits financially as a lot of positions become useless and they can’t charge clients as much as having the whole structure and 60% more people per project.

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Vertical Storyteller, lol, does he mean presenter, that he tells a story while standing or what. I’m something of a horizontal napper though, hence I prefer wfh.

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Control...ughh

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