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Dude when you publish to your coworkers that you believe your gender is superior to their gender at the type of work you are doing you will get fired. Every time. Just try that sometime with a coworker. Tell them based on what you know about their gender, ethnicity, sexuality, etc that who you are is definitively better than who they are.
BCG1: You should maybe try reading the actual memo and not the NYT made up editorials... the guy wrote a well researched and fact based memo. It was not something about why men are superior to women.
With how PC our firms are? I think we would.
Now if there wasn't a media firestorm the answer would be a bit more unclear
All depends on how much publicity it got... if it had the same level of publicity as Google, then most definitely. Let's be honest here - the Google guy got fired cause it was attracting too much negative publicity - not purely because of the contents. If only 100 people had ever seen it, nothing ever would have happened - or even if it had remained google internal only.
BCG1- I know, this just seems so basic and so unacceptable. It sounds like there are a lot of white men out there who feel threatened by diversity and inclusion initiatives despite the majority of these companies being comprised of and run by men. Look, if there are people feeling this way, I'd rather have a convo where they can say it, get it off their chests, and then understand the other side. I am so sick of all of this passive aggressive nonsense. If you're sexist and don't know it, be willing to admit it and learn for it. It is 2017, and as a woman, I still feel like the prevailing attitude is that I should just be thankful that I was allowed in the door.
Anytime you mention Hitler you lose all support. Conversation over from my end.
^thats absolutely not a true statement. "...get fired. Every time". I have seen plenty of crap said in all types of organizations and it's far from "Every time". In fact, it's probably rare, even in the US.
That's your opinion. Women endure more than you know on a daily basis and we're often not listened to or taken seriously when we do raise issues. It gets to the point where there is almost nothing left to lose, other than the job that is discriminating against you day-in and day-out. Cond't
D2, you totally dismissed BCG1 out of hand, saying that they focused more on the SJW coverage, but maybe you should go back and read the manifesto yourself. Because the argument the paper makes is:
Men statistically are biologically better suited to technology work (at Google) than women.
The author's gripe is that Google has supposedly prioritized hiring women to close the gender gap and turned away more qualified men for less qualified women to meet that goal.
The important aspect of this is the underlying implication - that his female coworkers are in a job they are unqualified for or undeserving of. ^This is the REAL issue imo, and why he was fired.
Now, idk if you agree with the basic premise about biology, or about hiring quotas for women, or about whether that has caused poor candidates to get good jobs. Really interested to hear your thoughts in any matter. But honestly, how do you think it would go if you wrote a note to your local office staff saying the same thing? I think you would probably be let go.
OP: 1: No Hitler didn't... It was mainly scare tactics and threats and lies. Minimal facts, please do a bit of research before trying to use your next hitler comparison. 2: which points and facts are you disputing in the memo? 3: Do you think men and women are biologically the same?
M2- look, I totally agree. It's 1 am. I was making the point that there are lots of instances when facts have been used to perpetuate wrong views. If it helps, I'll rescind that Hilter comment bc I agree that it was outrageous, but the principle holds.
OP: What the going public portion says about it, is that liberal news organizations can make up blatant lies about a memo and get enough SJW pissed off to get a man fired for no reason.
I just got out of the shower and was thinking about this. I am a woman in my early-30s. For most of my life, I have been at the "top." I am not trying to sound obnoxious, but rather give context- my family was in the top 1%, I had some of the best educational opportunities in the world, etc. During my teens and my early 20s, I was f-ing unstoppable. Around 27, small things started to change here and there. It was like a gradual drip, drip. One thing would happen on a daily basis and you'd brush it off. It got worse over the years and was always this weird small stuff that is not obvious how to address. You endure. I am now at the point where I encounter prob 15 instances of these things on a daily basis. It will drive you mad and make you want to screen. I don't know if I am rare, but I can say that I feel like I have been on both sides- the side that is super privileged and a reasonable amount of hard work will propel you and the disadvantaged side where you essentially have to work yourself into the ground to move an inch. I would say that for most of my life, I was prob not discriminated against, but now, I am and it is so obvious and before this experience, I don't think that I could have ever comprehended the deep level of anger that one naturally feels after living like this on a daily basis. It's unnecessary and yet it goes on. My bigger point is that these topics are real and there is no good way to solve them other than going through them. It prob won't be pretty and the growing pains from this memo are just one example, but the US and world economy depend on women being full and equal active players. If we are not, we are stupidly leaving money on the table so to speak and we just won't move forward as much as we could, both in our societies and our economies.
Freedom of speech is not speech without consequence. You are free to speak your mind and then you will be judged on the merits of your speech. In his case, I'm sure this was his truth, but it is far from being true.
You may be the worst human being in the world ATK. I'm not saying you are. Just that there's a possibility. In fact, you could be a good person but it's partially mitigated by your potentially poor choice of arguments to defend.
Don't judge me! I said may, partial and mitigated! Those words mean I can wiggle out of things!
Yeah, people defending this memo have NO IDEA how humiliating it must be to be a woman engineer/coder at a major tech firm with the constant implication that they are under qualified and only there because of their gender. And again, there's always the plausible deniability of "Oh no, I don't mean anyone here specifically, I'm just saying there's a possibility or etc etc based on these scientific studies that say women aren't as analytical as men."
OP: I'm quite fine where I am at... Nothing I have said is false or incorrect. I'm also quite comfortable debating the merits of first v second v third wave feminism and how sections of the third wave are erasing the hard won gains of the first two waves.
D2- yes, let's zoom in on that. Did the memo warrant him being fired? There is the content and then the result (media, etc)
I will say that it is, at least, relatively well written. Parts of it are absurd. I'm still forming my thoughts on the topic, but I will say that I am pissed AF about the BS I have to put up with on a daily basis and I bet many others are too, which is why there was prob the reaction to this that there was