Need some advice. I work for a small firm as a first year- the majority of my work has been NDA reviewing and negotiation. I’ve done prob about 150 to execution since I’ve started - these are for our clients who are MASSIVE corporations (lead attorney ex big law partner who started her own firm).
I like the people I work with and only have to go into the office 2 days a week - but I’m depressed because I think nda experience is useless. I’ve done a few other things too but I’d love some advice.

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I do not see the problem here this sounds great. If you’re depressed, go to therapy. Corporate jobs aren’t emotionally fulfilling. You have 5 days a week not in the office to develop hobbies and friendships to fulfill you.

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@AGC1 and @A2 I guess I just don’t see an issue if the firm they’re working at is where they want to work at (meaning the pay and people are good). If the pay isn’t good and the work environment sucks, the work you’re doing isn’t a reason to stick around indefinitely. If you’re being paid poorly, doing shit that doesn’t help you progress within the firm or elsewhere, then yeah, find another job. The advice I’m giving and you’re giving is the same - either ask for more varied work, or leave.

I agree with A1 that your first year isn’t really about substantive experience, you’re pretty much just learning how to work for a law firm. You’ll be too expensive to just do NDAs soon enough and be moved onto whatever else juniors in your group do.

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I work for a small (10 person) firm so I kind of have to do this stuff for the firm

What is your comp? I went through around 100 NDAs just the past month for one $100mil private equity deal so 150 in a year really isn’t that many. But as a first year you aren’t going to get your hands on a ton or sophisticated documents so I wouldn’t worry about that.

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Definitely hit your year mark and then start exploring options. I lateraled after my first year but that was largely because the firm was toxic and my mental health was shot.

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We aren’t a big firm and we have already automated our NDAs. You need to gain additional experience quickly because this kind of work will be replaced by software within the next 3 years.

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We do NDA’s for complex transactions with often several rounds of negotiation.
We probably aren’t at that point yet with these, but I am definitely trying to gain additional experience.

I would focus more on whether you think the people you work with are willing to train you and if you have a good sponsor and a good mentor.

Oh also agree that I wouldn’t worry too much about your work being fulfilling. Rookie mistake that I made too. Transactional legal work isn’t fulfilling, but the paycheck tends to give you the ability to find opportunities for things outside work that are.

This thread is making me even more depressed lol I’m fucked

I’ve literally did thousands of NDAs for PE clients when I was at a firm. I learned a ton about the business. I got firsthand negotiating experience, which many juniors don’t get. I used that to get more substantive work from partners, while still doing NDAs. Eventually, they moved me away from NDAs entirely because I showed that my non-NDA work was more valuable to the firm and clients. Or you could use this experience to lateral. Happy to chat more if you DM me.

I suppose it depends on the industry and transactions at hand, but I'm sort of shocked that your entire day to day is only NDAs and that clients are paying to outsource lowly NDA work. I mean, they're all effectively the same. We don't even bother reviewing them anymore except for certain transactions.

Definitely start looking now. It will take a long time to find a new job that you actually want, so get started early. You’re missing out on critical learning experiences and that’s okay but you don’t want to continue to fall behind your peers at other firms. For now, have conversations with your colleagues about more advanced work and your desire to learn. If the reality is that you don’t actually have time to work on other things then there is no doubt that this is not the place for you.

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