Why is it harder for black educated women to get married?

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This would probably be a good topic for some sociology doctoral dissertation. With admittedly no forensic evidence to back me up, I am going to say it's because men feel threatened by a woman who is smarter than them, more highly educated than them, and makes more money than them. It's okay if we're prettier than them -- unless you're Donald Trump, who maintains he's better looking than Kamala Harris (like that's a major issue facing the nation). This is my understanding of educational demographics. The number of college-educated white women is closer to that of college-educated white men. I believe -- again, no research to prove it -- that there are more college-educated black women than there are black men. This is primarily because teachers have to have a college degree and there are a lot of black female teachers. While inter-racial marriages are more common than they used to be, there is still a "birds of a feather" factor that whites attract whites and blacks attract blacks. If that's the case, if there are more educated black women than educated black men, there's you're first possible factor. This next one will probably raise some sparks, but I'll say it anyway -- and hope I'm wrong. Black men who are well-educated and have a good-paying and prestigious job may cast their fishing line in "White Lake" to land a wife. Sorry. I say that because I've seen it too many times. If they marry a white woman, that's one less educated black man looking for an educated black woman as his life partner. I just don't think there are as many white men looking to marry a black woman. "Marry" is the key word there, if you know what I mean. You asked for opinions to answer your question. Those are mine. Agree or agree to disagree without being disagreeable.

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This is a broad statement that assumes itself to be true while also not allowing for the case-by-case nuance it needs. It is not that a woman is black nor that she is educated which makes it hard for her to marry. Those two traits in stasis have no real bearing on the ability to marry.

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Are you familiar with “Kevin Samuels”? He has a few thoughts on the matter.

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How did that end up working out for him?

Because, if being a BLACK counterpart is your "must" prerequisite, then you are hugely limiting your options. The more stats that you make as requirements, the less options you'll find that you actually have.

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A2, it’s hardly about filters, legitimately. I think a major runner is
1. The perpetuation of BW as awful partners, moat discouragingly by BM: latest Fuhad and Juhad and their nonsense in Atlanta.
2. Black women are the most educated sector of society currently and the fastest growing segment of entrepreneurs- yet we are constantly told to “lower” our standards of simply meeting an equal partner- not even talking of 6’5 in finance. The narrative of society conflicts with the manifestation of the appropriation of black women in every sector- humor, look at Tyler perry and Awkwafina, body- BBL anyone? And features- fillers and plumpers. Moreover, men from other races see BW as a fetish or “on the road to their trad white wife”. A nice detour in youth or on their eatpraylove but not seen enough as the wife choice for billionaires.
3. Many BM in my experience are just too young for me, Idk but my approachers are always like >25.
Mommy issues???? 😭😂

Lots of reasons. Some are their own faults, and some are mens fault, and some of it is just bad luck.

Anyone looking for an excuse to solely blame everyone else as to why they struggle to find their "perceived" match is likely the problem themselves.

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Did I not just say it is lots of reasons (meaning there's no black and white)?

You want discussion but didn't even read what I wrote

I wish I knew the answer to that OP because I feel like I am going to be single for the rest of my life. I honestly feel like men are intimidated by an educated woman and I don't know why that is. All of my friends seem to be having the same trouble that I am having.

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Mem are afraid of:
Being in a conversation where they are corrected, vocabulary they don’t understand, logical paradigms they can’t even find with a color by numbers…. male fears are so wide.
Being schooled and educated themselves like I did for you here. 💀💀

There’s a lot of discourse around dating challenges for educated/successful women, I’d start there

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It is very difficult to find yreu period and then take an educated woman, it's even tougher. A lot of black women have to go outside their race to find love. Be happy with your life and do events to make uou happy while looking for love.

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There are several reasons behind the challenges that highly educated women face in getting married, and it extends beyond race. Many women in fields like law, business, and medicine find it difficult to settle down, particularly because they tend to delay marriage while focusing on their careers. As they get older, it becomes harder to find a partner, partly because the pool of available men narrows with age, and the expectations for finding someone who matches them in both education and income further complicate things.

Highly successful women often seek men who are similarly accomplished, but across the board—regardless of race—there are simply fewer men in these positions. Men, in general, tend to be more flexible about a partner’s income, which creates competition for a smaller number of men who meet these higher standards. This isn’t just a racial issue; women from all backgrounds are vying for the same pool of men.

Even for Black women who prefer dating outside their race, the situation doesn’t necessarily improve. Many of the highly educated Black women I know are married to men who may not earn as much, regardless of whether those men are Black or of another race. Data also shows that white men tend to prefer marrying within their own race or with Asian or Hispanic women, which means the options for Black women are often more limited when it comes to marriage.

Ultimately, this issue isn’t limited to one group. Across the board, focusing too much on finding a partner with the same income level or delaying marriage for career reasons has contributed to a general decline in marriage rates. While some suggest that expanding options to date outside one’s race is the solution, in reality, it doesn’t necessarily address the root issues. Many Black women, for instance, find themselves in long-term relationships without reaching marriage. To move forward, it may be necessary for both women and men to reconsider some of the barriers we’ve built around marriage, like income brackets and the idea of waiting until a career is fully established.

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This is a great analysis but misses the fundamental crux- the data. As OP already mentioned race is VERY much a factor and BW are on the extreme in every category. Overlooking race and it’s impact won’t make it any less present or affecting and damn sure won’t make it go away A7.

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