Do you think minority folks can really get as far as they should if they don't have a supportive manager? Especially is a problem if their manager is UNSUPPORTIVE, but even if they just aren't actively looking out for them?

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I would say you can have quite an effect on helping someone to get more visibility and be more welcomed into the group. I think some training for managers that is particularly focused on affirmative work conditions is not a bad idea at all. Not putting people at an advantage - just removing the disadvantages.

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I see both points and agree and disagree with both points. The reason why affirmative action is necessary is because people can't be trusted to hire and treat everyone equally on a large scale. In theory, that is how it should be. In actuality, it is not at all how it should be to the point where black women are the lowest paid in the country. I personally don't care about people being uncomfortable. They don't care about me and what's going on in my life soooo.... There needs to be diversity at all levels of the company and they need to make sure all voices are represented.

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I don't think anyone can get very far without a supportive manager, least of all POCs. I think it is important to have open and honest communication with your manager so that everyone is on the same page about what is expected from everyone involved.

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White woman here: don't be so biased. It effects us all when we have a manager that is ill-equipped to manage well and support his/her team.

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I’m going to speak for black folks bc “minority” is too broad a label that you’re using - a Jewish woman, LGBT, or Asian man have different backgrounds and a one size fits all manager simply won’t work.

I am in my 30s and altho there have been about three generations of black people in the labor force, the overwhelming majority are still individual contributors (across all generations and all industries). Because of that, there is little business leadership/guidance that can be passed down or passively observed so just having a “high paying” job becomes the marker of “made it” for black folks.

I am a smart and hard worker but I never learned the “office politics” of it all as some of my white peers have. But do you think a female boss will know how to mentor a young black male in that regard? Unlikely. We all know middle management is NOT filled with the best and brightest of an organization but why POC are denied promotions to alleviate the issue is beyond me - there are so few examples of true meritocracies in the world.

tl;dr fight the man.

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Management matters! Especially if you’ve been in a company for a while. 5 years I scaled the corporate latter because my manager listened, encouraged and promoted my goals as an individual now nothing… less than nothing because my manager has already promoted who he “likes” but you’d better believe he still expects me to do all the work.

And don’t!

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Actually both as I rose, but as the management team restructured my manager fought to keep me as his lead/supervisor and was told he’s showing bias’ but everyone else was building a strong team. And as the restructuring went on I got less and less from the team especially when talks of management came up.

Maybe if you're having skip-level meetings with people above your manager. That way, they can see and hear about what you're working on from you directly without having to wait for your manager to say it.

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I’m in a law firm where the “managers” are basically all white males and I as an associate receive ZERO support or training or even barely a hello. However, if I there is one minor typo on anything I get ripped apart. We get bonuses depending on the hours we bill and I do not get enough. They want me to beg for assignments. Not happening.

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