What is something that breaks your heart right now when it comes to diversity and inclusion?

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Exploitation of a good concept to create racist policies and initiatives. If DEI were utilized as intended the focus would be on removing boundaries like degree requirements for entry level positions. Not cherry picking based on the preferred color or sex.

Changing requirements is a tactic commonly used to suppress. It’s called “moving the goal post.” POC and women are receiving degrees in record numbers. Right now, black women are the most educated group in America. If you remove the degree requirement, it will have the adverse effect. It will open the door for less qualified and reopen the door for “the good old boy network,” which created the inequality in the first place.

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All the layoffs of DE+I Officers, the rolling back of these programs, and affirmative action being struck down by the Supreme Court.

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The whole “diversity hire” thing. I worked extremely hard for my position as did several of my colleagues who are considered to be “underrepresented.” It just feels so belittling when people assume that the ONLY reason I was hired was because of my skin color.

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What’s your overall stance on affirmative action?

“We would hire [marginalized population] but they aren’t applying.”

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I got an e-mail today complaining that the employee spotlight in our community newsletter for national coming out day is highly offensive to her and her born again Christian faith and a second email from her SVP stating that LGBT posts "alienate a large percentage of our employees and customers. Someone's sexual preference should not be emphasized in the workplace."

It's heartbreaking how much work I still have to do to remove some people's heads from their a$$es.

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Thank you for the extremely hard work you do

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That so much of it is still just talk or, worse, performative and not actual allyship. We're not tokens. We're not "diversity hires." We're not less-than.

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Are u given opportunities to lead or shine on major projects?

The fakery of it!

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The fact that the diversity hire is more of a checkbox goal/ target for managers. Afterwards the basic acceptance and adoption of diverse experience into culture and strategy is slim at best. Makes the diversity hire feel worthless and creates lack of growth for them.
And when you try to discuss, some peers refer to studies that say the the white male is the most miserable these days.
It's feels like a lost cause for both sides 😐

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So true.

How many DEI programs have been boiled down to the cis white male is bad, and if he tries to explain his feelings, it is a microaggression. It's hard to be an Ally when you are attacked at every turn and you are guilty of whatever someone accuses you of. Many of the DEI leads in my organization are the least tolerant of any idea that is not their own.

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First, the absolute performance of it all and when it comes down to action, nothing happens. Second, the “tax” that organizations put on the few members of the organization that are from diverse backgrounds. It’s a slap in the face. It’s not our job to carry out your weak policies with little to no funding to make you feel better about yourself!

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What hurts me is not being able to feel included. Diversity isn't just about race - it's about age, disability, culture, etc. It's about making people feel included so they feel safe enough to speak up to add value to the organization.

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The volume of organizations who feel that diversity is enough and don't take equity or accessibility into consideration. It doesn't matter how diverse your team is if folks don't feel safe or valued.

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They like the idea of me but they don't really like who I am. Read Chuy Renterias witt g on DEI I'm his substack on #doesuiowaloveme

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That statistics show that white women are benefiting and capitalizing from off it yet they are not allies to minorities ESPECIALLY to BLACK WOMEN.

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Wild how people can be openly racist on a corporate app

That we have to fight for diversity and inclusion

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Colorism - why do white skin coloured people are preferred over brown?

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That “they” have the power to set it up and dismantle it all again. It’s the same power display just with a new face. This is what people fail to see. What is the alternative? Building within your own community. It’s slow but it’s sincere.

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The fact that white people always get special treatment and consideration for their feelings and preferences. As many times as I was verbally abused by my direct reports and heard about racist comment’s with no support from
My leadership. It’s awful that the metrics go up from the culture never changes.

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Oh and the comment that we need to hire “the best talent” so we shouldn’t go to HBCUs or HSIs…. That reallyyyyy boiled my blood.

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Just the violence against Black and transgender people in the US. In 20220 there were a record number of homicides of transgender people and Black transgender women were disproportionately affected. Same with the Asian community too.

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Why are town Hall meetings so impersonal? They are all about awards / the number of people hired. I know FCB health is large, but we never hear from people who aren’t Executives. Last town hall, when discussing inclusion efforts, there were no people of color represented and one of the 4 pillars of diversity was centered around our “reputation as an organization” (that really rubbed me the wrong way). At my last agency those conversations were always led by people of color from every level.

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My heart really goes out for the women in Pakistan, the amount of harassment they face on daily basis. I wonder why that is, is the root cause the extreme level of gender segregation.

Does anyone have any metrics/ benchmarks they could share on diversity hires? We're putting goals together for 2023 and our senior leadership wants 30% of all candidates interviewed and hired to be gender or ethnic diverse.

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Age? Gender? Location? Fav food for suhoor and iftar? GO!

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Asking for wife who's also in banking. If she got ~$100k in signing bonus in 2019 for 1 year commitment in CA and started FT in July 2020, assuming she leaves before July 2021, can her employer claw back full amount in California? Some say it's much tougher to do so under CA law but wonder if anyone has any insights. Banks won't likely care about analyst signing bonuses, but associate bonus at EB with diversity bonus can be significant. If she quits before, she won't be going to another bank.

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Do people in studios get paid substantially more than other offerings or practice (exploring to switch, thus asking)? what is the average consultant income bracket in studio? I was also wondering if anyone aware of gender centric wage disparity in DUSI?

My company is in need of a update online, could use your opinions! We need to better showcase our culture (caring, supportive, fun, intelligent IT industry leaders) as well as diversity. We are predominantly white still but making strides to improve here. What’s the best way to approach? I don’t want to seem disingenuous or that we are singling out our diverse employees (asking for photos). We have a remote and on-site workforce about 350+ EEs. Non white EEs make up about 35% of the company rn.

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Not sure if other firms are the same, at EY we can add “🏳️‍🌈 I support inclusion” in our email sig. Most people from Unity ERG don’t. If you don’t, why not? Particularly during Pride month.

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Drinks today near Chelsea/Midtown area? 32 - F
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Accountability correlates with Responsibility in this way: When a person accepts personal responsibility for how his/her actions and decisions impact and influence the lives of others, said person holds him-/herself accountable and accepts being accountable to others for the equity and inclusion (or lack thereof) in their spheres of influence.

Hello London folk. There’s a lot of great chat about diversity in adland on fishbowl, but it’s all very US based. So I’ve just started a bowl on diversity in London specifically - 9qo8f

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How do you deal with colorism that promotes diversity and inclusion in the workplace?

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From the moderator, for discussion.

Should white males be concerned that current focus on diversity will lead to negative results

If Yes, why and under what conditions
If No, why not?

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What do you think:

Teachers should/should not discuss their opinions and ideas around sexuality, gender, and religion with students.

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Hello HR Colleagues, do not be afraid of implementing equity and inclusion strategies into your organization culture work. Wondering where to begin? How to begin this work? Should your organization hire a consultant? Is this something that a HR Professional can do?

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Anyone have suggestions on a team building exercise or consultant/coaching to build/improve energy. I feel 2020 was such a big drain on everyone’s energy and spirit just looking for ways to start the year out on a more positive note. TIA

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I feel like I have to work but I don’t want to😩 happy Labor Day y’all

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Should I negotiate without any competing offers?

Company: Walmart Tech Labs
Location: Hoboken
Base: 150k
Bonus: 24k (16%)
RSU: 25k / year for 3 years

Offered TC: 180k
YOE: 3

I initially thought TC was 199k, but it’s actually 180k. Should I say something like “I was expecting 220. Is there anything you can do like a sign on bonus/raise base a bit to help get to 220?” To see if they can bump it up a bit?

I just don’t want to negotiate and get the offer rescinded.

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Can someone please refer for SAP BASIS/Hana in Infosys?
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Has anyone gotten funding for their startup from an angel investor? A friend from grad school submitted a patent but needs funding for the patent fees, then a clinical trial. (Not looking to sell to big pharma company. Also, the therapy itself cannot be patented, but my friend has the patent for the technology that produces it.)

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Anyone have Producer friends / contacts at Pandora? Looking for an in. 🙌🏻

Thoughts on Residuals clauses in NDAs? (Ex.: X will be free to use and disclose for any purpose the residuals resulting from access to or work with Company’s Confidentjal Info.” Refers to ideas, concepts, techniques retained in the memory of people unaided by CI. Do you strike?

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is mba necessary for landing job as HR, how to establish into L&D roles ? are certification helpful, can you let me know some.

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So...what’s happening people

What do I do with a defunct company stock that still sporadically has trading volume? For reference, it went permanently out of business I. 2016 (chapter 6) but the stock still trades occasionally. Do I need to sell so I can claim the loss or will it just automatically go to 0 at some point? I would have expected it to happen eventually but it still has value (about 2 bucks for 200 shares lol)

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Will there be any career growth if we are into a product specific Business analyst?

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Ikon or epic pass for NE skiing?

How much of the work that gets entered/wins at Cannes is real? Seeing criticism of fake work – but doesn’t this happen every year from a whole ton of agencies?

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Wednesday 3/14 FYI Island Visit thread

Comment in the below format if you want visitors or are looking to visit an island.

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Hello Folks,

Need some suggestions on
NetApp company WLB, stability and growth. My total years of experience in 7.5 years and profile is Azure Cloud Administration.

Can you please suggest about NetApp.
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General question: Is there any room in corporate America for real, actionable DE&I discussions and initiatives? I've observed so many corporate versions become an advertising strategy (SM posts, diversity reports) without doing the actual work (increasing representation in senior leadership, salary analyses, having an effective reporting system for bias). Is this just how it is?

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I’m trying to cultivate discussion oriented DEI spaces, any topical themes that would make fun and engaging discussions?

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Does anyone have a recommendation for a successful diversity focused job board?

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Does anyone have any metrics/ benchmarks they could share on diversity hires? We're putting goals together for 2023 and our senior leadership wants 30% of all candidates interviewed and hired to be gender or ethnic diverse.

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What are some examples where you feel included at your organization?

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Feeling very frustrated right now…company talks a big game about DEI internally, while requiring new hires to move to Texas/Arizona, while the company’s PAC donates to politicians pushing extremist, regressive, anti-woman and anti-LGBT laws

They want to encourage us to “bring our whole self to work” while putting us in situations where we can’t be our whole self.

Anyone else in a similar place, feeling discouraged? Any tips?

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In honor of National Voter Registration Day, The New Yorker released the transcript of a previously unpublished interview with James Baldwin, who gave a first-hand account of "Freedom Day 1963," a Black voter-registration drive in Selma, Alabama. Baldwin's descriptions from that day are so vivid and detailed that you can feel the fear and anger of the event. If you have a couple of minutes, I highly recommend you read it.

Hi everyone! I’m pivoting from working in politics in search of a role in DEI. I have 1.5 YOE managing multiple campaigns and a BA in Global Studies & MA in Ethnology. I have experience working in and with non-profits and a passion for people and culture. I’d love to connect to hear about your journeys & advice for an early career transition!

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My company has ERGs and one of them is pretty large and includes a lot of demographics. Within it, people are starting to kind of form their own subgroups (like based on office location or country-specific ethnicity). Does anyone have any thoughts around what would be appropriate for DEI practitioners to be aware of when serving these populations?

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Hey I have an large project idea but I am looking for a business partner who is interested in helping fund the project. Does anyone have any suggestions on how to find a business partner like that?

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My company is in need of a update online, could use your opinions! We need to better showcase our culture (caring, supportive, fun, intelligent IT industry leaders) as well as diversity. We are predominantly white still but making strides to improve here. What’s the best way to approach? I don’t want to seem disingenuous or that we are singling out our diverse employees (asking for photos). We have a remote and on-site workforce about 350+ EEs. Non white EEs make up about 35% of the company rn.

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Our team is about to recruit and we are trying to live our DEI values. Any tangible actions you can suggest to how we can widen our attractiveness to a more diverse candidates? Applies internally and externally. Thanks for any suggestions.

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Hey! I created a bowl for DEIB practitioners and employers/hiring managers who need contractors or candidates .

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Juneteenth is just around the corner. This is the first year I get the day off as a company holiday -- not sure if my company is having any programs or events. How about yours? And if not, are you doing anything on your own to recognize/celebrate this day?

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Been for a company for over 2years. The executive team is very much a boy's club. There are a few women in management roles but zero ethnicity diversity there. I raised my concern to HR in feb. And they are just now deciding to do something about it. They want me (white female) to put together a diversity committee. Any suggestions on how to go about it? How to attract volunteers to the committee? I want to make sure I get the right people involved in this, to push for changes.

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Hi all,

My boss makes jokes about me being from a different country whenever there is a work meeting or a gathering with coworkers, even though he knows where I am from. This usually occurs when I meet new work-related people or for example if I am in a situation that involves ethnic related subjects.

What is this? This is normal?

Stereotyping?
Racism?

The first time I ignored that, but now it has become a pattern and is bothering me now. I am south-American working in the UK.

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