Is it ethical to layoff a consultant by using the counsel to leave mechanism over the standard redundancy process? Theres less notice period and no compensation for such a case. Furthermore the consultant was previously good standing or at least average. Do we have any legislation to protect us against such actions?

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I’m a third year consultant, and I’ve just been laid off by Deloitte due to COVID. I’ve been looking at big strategy consulting firms like MBB and OW. It’s been a real struggle to find an open role or to come in contact with a recruiter. Any angel helpers out there with tips or connections?

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🐠 - Have you ever gotten fired (not laid off)? If so, why? Where are you now?

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Woke up to the dreaded “Conversation with X” meeting on my calendar this morning 😔 I know this question has been asked multiple times but can someone provide me a list of all of the things I should send to myself before being let go? Also, does anyone have any tips on how to negotiate for the maximum severance package? So much processing through my head right now and trying to remain level-headed to figure out the short term plan in the meantime. I have my call in the next 3 hours. Thank you!

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Is there a list of which consulting companies have/have not instituted layoffs, furloughs, pay freezes, etc.? Keep hearing it’s happening everywhere, curious specifically if some firms are actually going ahead with merit increases / VC.

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Deloitte guys - Serious question.
How is Analytics & Cognitive doing at D? I have an offer and I am not sure if there will be layoffs again. I am on work visa so will be difficult.
Role will be for Google Cloud & Analytics. Current job doesn't suck much though.

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How long did it take for you to find an exit? 1YOE and my company (boutique) is struggling, so I’m looking to leave ASAP, and getting worried I won’t find something before our next round of layoffs

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i‘m just so anxious and have no motivation for work. Want to take PTO.But not sure our company will have second round of lay-off .So I’m a little bit worried whether to use PTO. Keep hearing bad news about layoffs. Don’t know how to adjust myself

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How long do firms typically let people stay on payroll after notifying them of being laid off?

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Any consulting firms hiring at the analyst level right now? Profile is a business technology analyst, semi target school, < 1 year of experience. Experience primarily with technology transformations, excited about the work and want to stay in the tech consulting space. Unfortunately impacted by COVID related layoffs.....

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How is ZS doing in this market? Evaluating an offer and wanted to know how they are doing financially? If they have layoffs? Do they have a healthy project pipeline?

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Can those of you who were working during the 2009 financial crisis or earlier recessions share your experiences?

Especially around the uncertainty, layoffs, career/income impacts, etc.

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Do you “like” or congratulate someone to their new job on LinkedIn that you fired from your team just prior? Nice / professional or macabre / rubbing it in?

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Should I take a 15% pay cut and leave Accenture for industry? Or wait it out to find a better paying opportunity? Worried about chargeability and layoffs, hate the process of getting staffed. Wondering if it's worth it though for such a big drop.

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Previously in consulting, was just laid off from the late stage VC fund I was working at. Any ideas of what to do next?

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How is everyone dealing with the stress of unemployment looming around the corner? Constantly afraid of layoffs happening in the industry and starting to lose sleep over it.

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I was laid off in June. Most consulting companies are on a hiring freeze that I’ve talked to. It’s pretty hard on my psyche to not get down on myself. I worked so hard to get to Deloitte and now it feels like I’m starting over. It’s tough. Any advice on companies that are hiring? I only want to go if it is a fit not just anywhere you know. Thanks.

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Considering an industry offer after getting laid off. Have those who made this move missed consulting?

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Ryan had his partner call last week. If things don't change in six months, layoffs will begin. It would be much better to ask people to take a pay cut, or a few weeks off without pay. Some people may be willing to take a package as well. Don't expect it will be the sweet package you are offering to partners to retire early.

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A friend of mine from a top tier consulting firm was counseled out. Do you consider it ethical that his career counselor is intentially spreading the information to his colleagues and to other consultants from other companies in the project? What can he do about it? Specially that he considers the potential layoff is purely based on the current situation (chargeability was low) and not on his performance (they said that his contribution to BD during his bench time was low)?

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I had a Big4 joke for you but the people who are really good at telling it are being laid off due to “performance” reasons. 🤭

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Joined a new company in industry after being laid off from my last job after being there for only 5 months. My new gig is rough, no support network, my boss is not a very nice guy and I dread this new job every day (2 months in). Things aren’t going to be getting better and I’ve almost thrown my mouse at my wall out of frustration with the job/boss.

Is it too early to leave? Bad idea just go get up and quit? Planning on moving back home with my parents so I wouldn’t have to dip into savings

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This is one of the stranger posts I've seen about being laid off by Deloitte 🤔 The author is hoping his sense of humor can get him a new job maybe?

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How to negotiate being brought on at a higher level?

Was laid off and recently received an offer from a comparable consulting firm, but they want to bring me in at a level lower than what I was at before. How should I go about negotiating to be brought on at the same level I was at (two years of experience at level, would have gone up next performance year)?

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Nice to see how other companies react to their leaders when layoffs/job actions occur. Never see these types of posts from consulting companies. Any reason why?

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Any recently laid off cyber architects in the Chicago area? I’ve got a job opportunity at a local healthcare provider. DM me.

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Serious Q: i keep hearing that the pipeline hasn’t materially changed and that there is a ~5% difference right now. We also laid off people. Partners are taking a pay cut. What are the economics of not giving anyone a raise? Is it basically as a hedge against future earnings?

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How do you take each day as it comes? I don’t have a personal life, no hobbies, or family I’m close to. My life revolves around work. These days I’ve been feeling very anxious, and almost panicky before every meeting. The fear of being laid off (if not this cycle, then one of the upcoming ones) is always looming large. I know I can perform a lot better if I feel like I have nothing to lose. I can’t seem to get there though.

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What happens if you decline a call center gigs at Accenture? Immediately fired? Or what

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Can someone explain to me why LinkedIn had massive layoffs? It seems counterintuitive that during these times they’d need less employees.

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Would you take a job at a company where the workforce is ranked and the bottom 10% is fired via PIP every year? I can see 2-3% but 10% seems high and demoralizing.

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Does the severance for LinkedIn employees include a month of premium at least?

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Is Accenture still laying people off? Or has it already communicated all layoffs for the year?

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Is Deloitte done with layoffs? Is there an expectation for another round of layoffs later towards year end?

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Looking for insight on if making a career change into consulting is a good or bad idea with everything going on right now. Concerns involve: building and maintaining a strong network virtually, getting staffed on good projects without a previous track record, not learning as much as I would in-person with clients and experienced team members, and potentially getting laid off given limited senior leader exposure to “shield” me.

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Does McK actually get the “most impactful” projects compared to BB? Is it really “no one has ever been fired for hiring McK”?

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Been on the bench 2 weeks and nervous about getting laid off but also 10x happier with my life now that I’m not stressed out 60 hours a week. Is it bad that not working makes me happy...

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How do our firms view consultants and managers getting pregnant or just having young children in general? Is it a death sentence for future staffing opportunities? Conversely, would it mitigate the risk of layoff due to covid considering the optics / laws around woman’s pregnancy rights in the workplace? Honestly just curious.

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I'm thinking I won't be getting promoted if not laid off at the end Q2 or sooner. What are some good exit ops for an associate with 2 yoe in tech consulting? Exp in Cloud, PMO, IT Risk, and SoD.

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Laid off after Thanksgiving. 54. Not done yet. Plenty to offer. In Detroit but ready and able to move anywhere. AD/CD. Hangin in there. How bout you?

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Laid off, 10 years exp, tired of acct management. Feel so lost. Don't want to go back to agency side. What should I do? I feel like 💩

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Did BCW NY just layoff it’s EA staff?! Seeing a bunch of these names on Connect and very upset that great people were let go!

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We’re in such a vicious business. You give your heart & soul to an agency, a client, a brand. Then the wind changes & you’re laid off, reassigned, chewed up, spit out, on to the next. I’m tired.

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Do you think independent agencies will be in better shape to handle COVID-related client budget reductions and/or losses?

Or does it not matter and layoffs are equal across the board?

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Is it safe to join PWC india at this point of time. Are we expecting any layoffs?

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Hey everybody. Got laid off at D. BTA within strategy and analytics. Mostly LS/HC experience. Anybody can help out with a referral anywhere? Thank you!

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I’m a Junior accountant, recent MBA grad in Finance, located in NYC, just got laid off due to a merger. Anybody hiring or know any opening positions?

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I was laid off from Deloitte in the 18th. I have an interview with Amazon for a Senior Program Managers Non Technical position with Amazon hiring manager on Monday. Any advice would be much appreciated. I would love to get into Amazon. I hear their interview process is brutal.

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After you are stealth laid off, other than job search, what do you do? I assume they won’t give you work and even if they do, you can politely decline? How do you feel about you are not progressing anymore and seeing other people progressing in their career? I have no intention to make partner, but still feel a bit stuck not doing that much.

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Layoffs at Omnicom shops today?

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After 10 years of working as a FTE PM/producer I’ve now been laid off (thanks Covid) and am looking to start freelancing for the first time. What advice do you have for a new freelance PM/producer?
Also, what kind of insurance do you take out as a freelancer?

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I started a full time in-house design job that pays extremely well. I barely have to work at all. This makes me very confused since I kept hearing stories of people working 60+ hr weeks as designers at ad agencies. I am not complaining, but I have this creeping irrational feeling that I’ll get fired for not working even though there’s nothing for me to do. Should i be making up projects or asking for more work? Or just chill out? I just feel very confused. Are a lot of full time jobs like this?

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Anyone know Deloitte core business group in Deloitte consulting LLP?

Salary range, business outlook of this group amid layoffs and green card initiation timeline?

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Constantly worried I’m going to get fired because I don’t know where I stand at my mid sized law firm (second year associate).

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Just got laid off do I need cobra? I plan to hopefully have a job soon

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So are the layoffs at Deloitte over ?

I know agencies across the board did some layoffs right before the holidays, but when do we think hiring will pick up again? Getting to a point where I feel like I need to start thinking about a change.

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For those not on the Symposium call: decisions late next week or early week of 7/11

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How many times is too frequent when you speak to your coach / team about manager promotions?

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What are your favorite personal finance books? I just read Rich Habits and really liked it. I am also reading the Psychology of Money. Looking to read some more!

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Hi everyone!
Does anyone know how much is the start-up salary range out of college for forensics/criminalist in California? And where to apply?

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Do you ever buy bottles to hold/age them and resell?

What do R&D strategy focused solutions entail? Is the focus more on the efficacy of clinical trials?

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I am working as a technology consultant specialist in PwC ac. As of now I'm working on an internal project of the company but i have received mail from a senior that if someone wants to volunteer for this project "financial service capital market- COI" should i opt or not? Will it be useful?

How do you communicate with your parents? How often?

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What do you do when you need to work with your EC students, have explained this to your teacher assistant (para), but they don’t assist the remaining children with engagement or problems?

The dir of the gen-ed preschool my self-contained room is attached to just let the staff know that she gave notice. I’m devastated.

Tell me about your director. I don’t know of many. [more below]

Does anyone have any ideas on what to tell parents if we have to do online teaching?

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@barclays what is the leave policy in Barclays. How many leaves per year and how many gets carry forwarded to next year. When can we encash our leaves.

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I'm thinking of directly emailing the founder of a small startup I'd really love to work at. Does this scream "overconfident millennial"? I've never felt this strongly about a company before.

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Changes in the healthplans are going to drive me to spend hundreds in out of pocket early on and I'll meet my deductible whether high or low. Any advice on how to choose a policy?

Anyone here works in blackrock alternative investors group? How’s the culture and career progression like?

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Can someone recommend a good photographer for headshots? I’ve tried two so far with mixed results. Don’t really like the final product and most are not great for a professional setting.

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Any black Christian men? 25 F Atlanta looking for a relationship

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Any insights/opinions on living in Toluca Lake?

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To anyone who is good with numbers, please help me in improving the accuracy or efficiency of this data.
I have the range of 31-32, but I need to increase this number(s) to almost 90.

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Anyone ever feel like having a career in consulting is effectively sacrificing the best parts of your life, or what could be the best parts of your life?

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