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I adopt the FIRE mindset...have maxed out my 401k and IRA for years....but I can't read "Back Door IRA" without giggling.
I swear if I ever turned to the adult film industry for income that would be my first title.
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@SM1 I had to google that....now I'll be going to chuch tomorrow....
Lots of articles out there that can provide a primer
Contribute to an after tax Ira -> immediately transfer to Roth. Fill out extra form in April.
If you already have a traditional Ira (not 401k),it's more complicated and you'll have to look up pro rata
There are no income limits for Traditional IRAs, however there are income limits for tax deductible contributions.
Big picture, you make the max post tax contribution to a traditional IRA every year (currently should be $6k for most folks), do not take a tax deduction on it, immediately roll that money over to a Roth IRA (which you can’t deposit to directly but you’re allowed to open a Roth IRA account and contribute rollover funds to it) and then let your funds collect non-taxable gains in the Roth IRA account until you retire. Rinse and repeat every year. You cannot get the money out without penalties before retirement, I believe.
You can still deposit “for 2020” until April 2021 (tax day). So if you didn’t deposit in 2020, you could still make 2 $6k deposits today, allocate one to 2020 and one to 2021 and then do the rollover to a Roth IRA. And repeat in 2022 and going forward, but only $6k (or yearly limit that year) at a time.
Here’s one primer, but there are many:
https://www.sofi.com/learn/content/backdoor-roth-ira-right/
Thanks for an actual thoughtful response. I have googled this/attempted to look into a bit before but for some reason nothing I was reading made sense as to how I could contribute when I also saw conflicting comments that you could only contribute 6K a year but with an income cap. I guess I was missing the * that the income limit is only for 401K like pre tax contributions.
This makes so much more sense now.
Here’s a step by step if you use fidelity
https://www.thepainvestor.com/2020/06/15/the-backdoor-roth-tutorial-with-fidelity/
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I found this one helpful bc it addresses specific language you’ll run into and that you’ll need IRS form 8606 to show your traditional contributions were not deductible. You don’t want to pay taxes 2x. https://thefinancebuff.com/the-backdoor-roth-ira-a-complete-how-to.html
What I still cant get my head around, is should I do this even though I have significant capital gains in my existing traditional IRA?
Ooh, good to know, I hadn’t realized that.
Could you also rollover your IRA (if it was all pretax) to your 401k and then no IRA gains to worry about if you’re doing Roth conversions in the future?
If you can't do a decent google to figure it out, you might wanna sit this one out
Thanks super helpful comment 👍🏽