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Dear Fishes, I am switching for the ist time in my life in 8 years.Need guidance on which will be better in terms of wlb,job security and learning wise.offered compensation is nearly same in all 1.Harman(product) 2.Hitachi Vantara 3.Banking captives:-Deutsche,UBS, HSBC Yoe:8 Techstack: java,Microservices,Devops,AWS,Azure Harman Harman Connected Services Hitachi Vantara Deutsche Bank UBS EY Deloitte PwC Tata Consultancy Wipro Capgemini Cognizant HSBC HSBC India
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I am an associate, had an offer from EY for a 25% salary increase but no promotion and no signing bonus. I was very transparent with KPMG that this was on the table, they essentially said hold on for 4 months until promotion time and they came back with 29% raise, 14% bonus and promotion. I am very happy I stayed because I now have leverage at EY if I chose to cross that bridge again
Most people jump and boomerang back. I've heard of counsellors telling their peers to leave and come back because it's a great way to reset your salary. As long as you can verbally justify the moves and not make them solely about money, people will hire you. My cc said "you're still young enough to do the big four tour and come back" haha
If you're going to do it, you better be damn good because you'll get the reputation as being completely disloyal
@KPMG OP I honestly think you can even keep your network if you leave. I still talk to managers and partners I worked for, I've had an offer to go back to ACN and turned it down but I still attend alumni networking events. It's consulting people understand.
OP if you built good network at KPMG you will at Deloitte. Is your offer for SI or S&O? That's where I came from
Damn, Deloitte is only 25% match up to 6% contributions #weak
Current firm should match if they want to keep you. That is, if you want to stay. If not, it's a no brainer
Deloitte is worst at matching. Known fact
Go back to KPMG and ask them to match...friend did that here, mgr had good relationship with SPML and got nearly a 50% raise... That blew my fucking mind and don't think it happens often but it can...Also think it has to do with what your skillset is and what practice you are in
Hmm seems like, long story short, shop around to every consulting firm haha. You might get promoted and a sick raise
As long as I get paid what I want, who cares about being a manager. But that's me, I know most people want that...
@deloitte4: why would they bump you down? If ur a senior manager at acc, how does it make sense to bring u on as a senior consultant....I can see lateral move and not be willing to promote people. OR if u don't have that consulting background they might bring u in at a lower level...I've seen that happen
@A2 this is how I feel. I'll be sad to leave my network but I think they will understand if I make the case I want to do more strategy + system implementation work and less PM/QA work over it. The bonus being ill get paid more.
@EY1. How do you feel about EY VS Accenture? 401k match any good?
@ACN 2 the principal who approached me about switching is in S&O but it's the strategy to implement and continuing into managing SI work for the State Sector.
@A1 Accenture has good projects but EY Actually cares about you learning, growing and doing work that you enjoy. I work with more partners at EY and I've been involved with way more leadership. 401k is 25% match and after 4 years 50% match
^up to 6%?
Yes @A1
OP be aware of public sector. SI is actually pretty technical/PMO... If you want to do strategy go ops... Or TS&A. I would talk to a few people in the practice, if your principal can arrange that.
Thread is too long to go back but whoever said they will likely get promoted mooing to Deloitte - not sure that is the case. 9/10 people will tell you Deloitte bumps you down one level than your current. If you're a manager they bring you in as a senior consultant.
You lose the network but worth the jump financially. If they low ball you because you're already underpaid - negotiate and just say you wouldn't really move unless it was x%. A well written email goes a long way.
@A1 - Assuming they meant SM to manager, which was what happened to my old manager when she changed to Deloitte. They still gave a pay raise I think though