Had a conversation with opposing counsel and he talked about how he was looking to add an attorney to his firm. The talk progressed to me showing interest and I thought he did as well, and he asked me to send a resume. I sent it to him the very day he was leaving for a 3-week vacation. That was 3 weeks ago, and literally no response. Not even an acknowledgement of the email. I know he’s been working while on vacation, because he’s been working on our case together. Should I follow up?

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Even though he’s working on vacation, he’s probably only addressing mission-critical stuff, which generally does not include reviewing resumes. Give him a few days to dig out post vacation before following up.

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This exactly

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"Hi [x] how was your vacation? Just wanted to follow-up on the below. Im excited about this opportunity and would love to discuss it more" or something like that.

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Hate to rain on possible exciting opportunity but I’d suggest caution. It’s probably a good idea to check the applicable jurisdiction’s ethics rules. I’d be a little worried about a real or perceived conflict (your interest in new job allegedly impacting your ability to zealously represent your client, by consciously or unconsciously wanting to impress/please opposing counsel). Good luck!

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Fortunately our case is minor and will be wrapped up shortly. But I have thought about how that would look to my client if he ended up with a less than satisfactory outcome and later discovered my position at opposing counsel’s firm…

Doesn’t hurt to follow up. Give opposing counsel a few more days as counsel is probably playing catch up!

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