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Can you elaborate more on what was said? Was it about clothing / attire? What the perceived intention was? How did others react?
I literally cannot imagine a female superior of mine (as a woman myself) commenting on my breasts….
DMed you. And yeah I couldn't imagine it myself. If it wasn't for her repeating the question several times I wouldn't have believed it.
Report, report, report.
I, too, am a female with a nice chest. I understand how uncomfortable it is to be painted as the office bimbo. Comments like that are only going to further that. If she’s doing it to you, she’s going to do it to others. You are in the position to stop that. Even if HR doesn’t do anything, you’ve done your due diligence, which is all that matters. I know it’s not easy, but I think it’s the right thing to do.
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You can but to be honest the chances this leads to anything significant is very low
Women get such free passes on this topic
OW1 I am so sad that you feel this way. Clearly the world is broken. But i hate it when people think « i’m not going to do what’s right because there’s no point » or « i’m going to accept getting sh*t because there’s no other way » or « i’m going to accept discrimination or inequalities because that’s how life is ».
Of course if no one ever does anything about it, it won’t ever get better. OP i really hope you report her. This is unacceptable. And i don’t see how she can get mad at you - like honestly she is so in the wrong. And aren’t you in a business where you change managers often so even if she gets mad, just don’t work with her anymore?
how much do you bench?
there's always an excuse or reason why or why we don't do something.
I would address it directly with the person. Let them know it was inappropriate and made you feel uncomfortable. If it happens again you then have evidence to elevate your complaint that you’ve informed the individual of their behavior and they refuse to changw
@BAH I do know what was spoken (DMed OP) and it was black and white wrong, no way it was a mistake. The procedures are in place for a reason, to prevent retaliation from someone more powerful than you. If you are willing to risk your career, sure, do a 1:1.
That sucks , sorry you had to go through that. This happens more often than you think regardless of gender. Honestly - unless you have enough factual evidence on what was said , you will become a target.. a little secret "HR function protects the interest of the company and mitigates its potential liabilities regardless of cost" - there is a chance you will become collateral damage in the process... but if you have factual evidence , then you become untouchable for a while - also think about what your end goal is before you do anything - good luck!
What was the inappropriate behavior? Ive heard stories of different outcomes
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What did she say?
As a female I would rather crawl through a bed of nails than say something
Also I do not want to see this person fired. Just simply want to ensure she cannot derail future opportunities for me or color the perception of me to others in the office.
Yes? Why is this even a question!
What did she do?
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I’d report her. If it was a man they’d get smoked by HR women don’t get a pass
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Everyone should get smoked by HR, unfortunately, it's the reality that even men aren't getting smoked by HR for these type of comments.
I would address an issue with the person, she might not meant it. As a non native speaker, I sometimes say something I don’t mean, especially if I am nervous.
I would have total understanding of the situation but there was no misinterpreting this.
Speak to her about it and inform your manager, regardless of whether you choose to formally report it to HR it’ll be good for her to know that it was an unacceptable comment and good for your manager to be aware in case it happens again. I can empathize with you. Hang in there!
Seems like folks are taking a slightly “give offender benefit of the doubt” attitude since she is female. I almost think it’s worse because offender is female. Don’t you think it’s a bit sexist to treat this offender any different than a man? With that said I had a similar situation years ago…I did nothing - figured the offender was feeling competitive or something. Years later - I’m comfortable that I did nothing but environment has changed over the years.
Curious why OP doesn’t want her fired?
OP - I understand. I don’t know if what she said would warrant firing but you sound like a very empathetic and caring person who considers others (bravo - this kind of attitude is in short supply these days). And although I know what u mean by using the word malicious - if that was the outcome of reporting - I don’t think that makes you malicious. My concern is that the offender clearly doesn’t seem to possess your level of empathy for others - including you. I’m a turn the other cheek person too - I don’t want the guilt of feeling like I screwed up someones life or career. Sometimes though I fear that my kindness is mistaken for weakness and I wonder if not saying anything (to HR for example) ends up empowering these jerks. Best of luck with the situation. Have a feeling that your chest not the only good quality you have. 😊❤️
Were you seriously offended to consider reporting her ?
The level of offence matters - because if you don't use some calibration , you will be miserable at every turn in your professional life . I have been fat shamed my whole life - but I have formally complained maybe twice and both those times it was taken seriously and the offender punished in a way that I felt was fair .
Workplace is far from being fair . HR is not your friend - their real function is to protect the firm . If you go confront a terrible manager - there is a good chance they won't change the poor behavior , but could pose more problems for you . None of that is fair - but that is how the world functions . This is why I don't think of these things as binary - and will calibrate my response
If you feel strongly that this will not stop - and that this manager will make things worse over time - by all means raise it with HR . I would also advise you to have a plan B in mind in case nothing meaningful is done - like a transfer to another manager or project or something .
Was she accurate in her comments?
Actually I have loved remote work for that reason. I'm completely judged on what I produce and not what I look like and have done very well as a result.
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To the Author… you rightly pointed it out in one of your posts… refer back to your harassment training. What they preach at your firm may not be the same at another. And what one practices may not be in alignment with what your firm expects.
Sounds like she made the comment several times, in front of others. Don’t recommend approaching her as it could make the situation worse. Speak with HR or your ethics and compliance team - the fact is, it made you uncomfortable and no one should be commenting on others’ bodies in the office.
Can't comment on this without knowing what she said.
F here and even I am interested in what she said. Whatever, it sounds like it made you uncomfortable.